justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/20/18 at 14:30:55:



sad

Read the bible.

huh---  just though, Jesus didn't/doesn't have a zero tolerance policy...

"I did not come to unite, but to divide. I've come to turn a mother against her son, a father against his daughter."

Jesus seemingly focuses on the "micro" meaning the individual is the subject. He might just as likely say to the illegal immigrant why are you breaking into someone's home (the USA) and stealing (welfare benefits)?

Who knows? I don't know what he'd say, you don't know what he'd say, other than I'm pretty sure he'd talk to the individuals involved and not to The President as an office holder or to members of Congress as office holders or to the group as a whole known as immigrants.

I can't recall a single instance where he involved himself in the politics of the day. When confronted once, he utter the "Render unto Ceasar" line. He told tax collectors as individuals to stop cheating, he didn't lobby the Roman government who allowed the practice because it brought them higher revenues to pass a law or enforce an executive order.

We operate in the world on two levels. The 40,000 ft level where common sense practices are put into place like immigration laws and border control. But we also operate down in the dirt where individual compassion supercedes laws like a helping hand to the widows and orphans.

There's a way to do both but you can't in the world of politics.

Going to church and saying you believe isn't enough.

Believe and Faith have similar but different meanings.

I sold a car one time to the friend of a friend of mine.

For that guy, while I Believe he's good for it, I asked for a cashiers check.

If my friend had been buying the car, I would have taken a check because I have Faith that the check is good or even if it wasn't he'd make good on it immediately.

That's the difference between belief and faith.

A relationship with an imaginary being does not help in any intellectual argument.
Get off yer' high horse.

Serowbot wrote on 06/21/18 at 09:23:24:

A relationship with an imaginary being does not help in any intellectual argument.
Get off yer' high horse.

So, you, ‘believe’ in NOT  believing.  Fine, that is your belief.
You state your opinion, that someone that believes in a Religion, and speaks to/hears/etc, a person, that person, (in your opinion) is, “… an imaginary being…”.
Again, that is fine, it is your Choice, to believe, in, Not believing in any Religion.

YET, your statement, “…Get off yer’ high horse…”, is telling someone,  unless they believe exactly as you believe, they are most certainly wrong.

And NOT, because of, ‘this or that’, but because of ONLY, they do not, ‘believe’ exactly in your, Non Believe, of Belief.

 What is an example of a sin that Jesus did not forgive?

 For instance did he inform anyone that their actions would indeed keep them from being absolved, or having their sins cast upon him?

 Theres got to be some exclusion to reference if one exists.