You can keep your doctor

Serowbot wrote on 06/17/18 at 08:05:55:


No, not true, as a man, a woman can kill mine if she likes.....

Spin it.

You want to protect ALL children, or just some?

Then why can a person be sued for lost of life of a unborn baby if caused by negligence of another?

I’ll wait for some more name calling  

Trippah wrote on 06/17/18 at 13:48:33:

So you think a new fetus is a child?  Is that your point? Does that mean if a woman miscarries she is guilty of murder?  Only a manly man would think that way.  And given the millions of women bring up children without a father, are they providing child support?  A child is born when he/she/it? takes its first breath.

“…So you think a new fetus is a child?…”
 Yep, the first division of cells, is another sentient Human being.

“… if a woman miscarries she is guilty of murder? …”
No, a ‘miscarriage’,  is  NOT planed or on purpose  (Unless it is a Abortion)

“… given the millions of women bring up children without a father, are they providing child support? …”
Certainly if they KNOW, who the father is, there are many ways to receive support.
Unless, they don’t know who the Father is. That is because they are, ‘protecting’ someone, or they had sex with so many, so often, they truly don’t know.
If that is the case, WHY, does the mother, want more, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme ?

“… A child is born when he/she/it? takes its first breath…”
As Raydawg also said,    Why if you hit and kill a Woman, and the ME determined she is  ONE DAY, pregnant. you WILL be charged with TWO  Murders.
 So which is it. ?

Trippah wrote on 06/17/18 at 15:23:09:

"... Is it two murders if you hit a  pregnant woman, killing both the woman and fetus?  I don't think so.  Cite your laws by state if you believe this stuff.  ..."

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
“…Common references to such laws include the Fetal Protection Act, the Preborn Victims of Violence Act and the Unborn Victim of Violence Act. Those supporting these laws say that both the lives of the pregnant woman and the fetus should be explicitly protected. They assert that fetal homicide laws justly criminalize these cases and address both unborn children and their mothers….”

State Fetal Homicide Laws

Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 29 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation/development," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization"); these are indicated below with an asterisk (*).

MnSpring wrote on 06/17/18 at 15:43:19:

Maybe we're at Orwell's instead?...

As usual those who condone anything trump does derail a thread with the most simple of premises that trump is playing America for fools by using the most basic of propaganda tools which were the weapon of choice for Hitler and Goebbels, namely keep the lie simple and repeat it endless and they WILL believe you.

In fact he's now saying how horrible and cruel it is and that this separation children from families is the result of the democrats. It's actually quite incredible. Bush weighed up this option and rejected it as patently cruel and inhuman and now who America is, Likewise with Obama.

Sessions on the other hand and Trump, have agitated for this horrific action, OK fine, if that's what they want to do but instead of owning it, they just keep on repeating over and over and over and over the simple lie that it's the democrats who are doing this.

Rinse and repeat, just keep on repeating it. Of course this is just one of trumps lies that he repeats endlessly. And really the media are to blame for being too gutless to encase his bullsh!t inside a 'truth sandwich'.

A truth sandwich is where the media reports what is actually happening, then reports what trump is saying, then reports how what he is saying is bullsh!t.

Even Mrs Trump is now saying that it's the wrong thing to do...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-18/melania-trump-says-she-hates-to-see-chi...

Nice to see idiots trying to call fetuses 'children'. If you go down that road then you have to say when this fetus is a child. The moment the sperm goes through the outer barrier of the egg? one hour, one week one month?