I think what Mr Spring is saying is

Just because they have propagandized a significant number of the masses into parroting what they want people to believe
Doesn't make it CORRECT.

You do know that you can
WIN
the argument and gain
CONTROL
and funk everything up, right?

I don't know why you are so focused on the militia thing.

Were the founders nuts or stupid?
Did they write a self contradictory amendment?
Doesn't it say

The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to Keep and Bear Arms
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED?
So what if people are not perfectly clear about the militia part?
What DOES IT SAY
In terms that CAN NOT BE CONFUSED?

Address my point.

And your assertions that the militia phrase was never agreed upon is not reasonable.

They knew what it meant.
People of the time understood.
And
WhAtever the militia thing means,
It DOESN'T conflict with
The right, etc, etc..

Unless you can explain why I am wrong

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/08/18 at 20:58:53:

Eegore wrote on 06/08/18 at 20:19:32:

"...  I can't imagine its going to be easier to convince all public education systems to adopt the theory, and it is theory, that a militia is all US citizens today. ..."

I believe it would be real simple.
 Tell the Teachers to, TEACH, the  TRUTH.
        Not their personal opinion.

If they can’t,  ’Their Fired’.
 Could always get a job filling gas tanks, or flipping burgers.  
         (Oh Wait, can’t do either now)
Well their is always, digging ditches, (Oh Wait …)

I know, another, government job, pushing a piece of paper from one side of the desk to the other.

Eegore wrote on 06/08/18 at 20:32:32:

"...

“… I think the logistics behind defining "militia" by the standards of the day it was written and implemented, then transferring that interpretation to modern day is a hard win.  If it hasnt happened yet with the NRA spending decades trying to convince people that "well regulated militia" means every free US citizen, I don't think it will happen at all…”

Decades, Plural, so that means a Min of 20 years.
So for even, 30 -40 years Kids have been, LIED to ?  How Many generations is that ?
Are they the kids, who are encouraging Hogg to stand in the street and Cry ?

 “…Face it, we can’t even get the Pledge of Allegiance back in schools…”
                   LOL, SAME as above who have pushed the pendulum SO far to the Left  LOL

“… Lets spend more decades trying, as more and more schools become gun-free, more parents endorse it, another generation grows up with more people saying that "militia" means National Guard.  This is a better idea than removing militia from the equation? …”

Perhaps let’s, Tell the Truth.  Tell teachers to Tell the Truth. Tell Media to Tell the Truth.
Tell Hollywood, NOT, to Encourage people to, Steel, Lie, Kill, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Just thinking, that is a way to become a better, ‘Civilized Nation’, over handing out the workers money to the LAZY.

‘Play’  Devil’s  Advocate with the, “well regulated militia”, part of the 2nd.

So, the ‘Anti’s’, have been saying:  ‘militia is Nat Guard, so it does Not apply to Citizens’.

The, ‘Pro’s’. say it means, because it meant then, that is, the Citizens.

Now someone says,  eliminate the words: “well regulated militia”.  And the reason is,  because someone has been telling Kids, who had Kids, who tell their Kids, the words:  “well regulated militia” mean, (now), Only the Nat Guard.

Remember the part about the, ‘Anti’s’, believe the 2nd, means the Nat Guard, Because of, “well regulated militia” ?
Remember the ‘anti’s’ believe that is the whole 2nd. Because of just the start of it, because they have been, ’told’, something different ?

Taking out/redefining/changing, the, “well regulated militia”, part.
    With the expressed goal of, making the 2nd better.
                Cannot be done.  (Now)
To say, 'Here is the change, and it will immediately replace the current 2nd".
Will Only trigger:  “See Told Ya So’, “I was right’,  ‘Na Na, Na NA Na’.”
(I can hear the CRYING now)

It will not get voted through because the States, that have NO control whatsoever over who votes. And NO  Desire to Stop, encouraging people, who are NOT  Citizens, to Vote, is happening.

In fact, it will double the efforts of the 'anti's' to Eliminate the 2nd. The same,  who will not realize, the 1st will shortly follow.

When voting by, 'Citizens', only, Changes.
Then, maybe, just maybe,  the 2nd, can be re-written, with a Immediate replacement,
 Which, Guaranties, the Same RIGHTS, as the, Original 2nd.

"Then, maybe, just maybe,  the 2nd, can be re-written, with a Immediate replacement,
Which, Guaranties, the Same RIGHTS, as the, Original 2nd."

 Right, that is exactly what I am saying. Replacement that improves upon the current one.  Defining militia to mean all free citizens to me does not denigrate the integrity or application of the 2nd.

 I could care less if people say "told ya so" as long as the 2nd applies today the same as it did then.