-- May 3, 2017, Arlington, Texas: James Jones went to the Zona Caliente sports bar and began yelling incoherently. When the manager, Cesar Perez, went to talk to him and calm him down, Jones pulled out a gun and shot Perez dead, then started shooting wildly at patrons. Luckily, a concealed carry holder happened to be having dinner at Zona Caliente with his wife that night. He shot Jones dead before anyone else was hurt.

-- Aug. 7, 2016, Linndale, Ohio: Two men getting into their car in a Dollar Store parking lot were held up by a masked armed robber. As the gunman, Varshaun Stephen Dukes, was rifling through one of the men's pockets, the other pulled out his concealed handgun and told him to stop. The robber fired at the man but missed. The concealed carry permit holder shot back, putting a .45 bullet in the robber's brain. (Naturally, he survived.) All of this was captured on the Dollar Store's surveillance camera, so no charges were brought against the armed citizen.

-- June 26, 2016, Lyman, South Carolina: Jody Ray Thompson opened fire in the crowded Playoffz nightclub, injuring three. But before he could kill anyone, he was shot in the leg by a club patron with a concealed carry license. Police arrested Thompson without further incident and no one died.

May 31, 2015, Conyers, Georgia: After arguing with a liquor store clerk, Jeffrey Scott Pitts returned with a gun and began shooting at everyone in the store, killing two. Todd Scott, who was there to buy a six-pack, returned fire. The crazed gunman fled, went home and shot his parents. "He was very surprised that he was not the only one in the store with a gun," Scott said. Apart from the two people killed in Pitts' opening barrage, no one died. Scott saved the lives of everyone else in that store.

-- July 24, 2014, Darby, Pennsylvania: Felon and psychiatric patient Richard Plotts pulled out a gun at Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, murdered his caseworker and wounded his psychiatrist, Dr. Lee Silverman. He would have kept shooting -- Plotts had 39 more bullets -- but the doctor pulled out his own gun and fired back, in violation of the hospital's no-guns rule. No one else died.

-- Jan. 11, 2014, Portland, Oregon: After being turned away from a strip club in Portland, repeat felon Thomas Elliott Hjelmeland came back, wearing a clown mask, guns blazing. He hit a waitress, a security guard and a patron before a bouncer, concealed carry permit holder Jonathan Baer, returned fire and ended the attack. No one died.

-- Dec. 16, 2012, San Antonio, Texas: Jesus Manuel Garcia began shooting at the Santikos Mayan Palace movie theater from a nearby restaurant and continued shooting as he walked toward the theater. An armed off-duty cop shot Garcia four times, stopping the attack. No one died.

-- March 25, 2018, Boiling Springs, South Carolina: Jesse Gates kicked in a side door of the Southside Freewill Baptist Church during services, raised his gun to shoot -- but was grabbed and held at gunpoint by the reverend's grandson, a concealed carry permit holder. No one was hurt. Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright said, "I like the fact that a concealed weapons permit holder was prepared to protect the worshipers."

Those countries without guns or mass shootings must really envy us...

Serowbot wrote on 05/25/18 at 09:51:43:

Those countries without guns or mass shootings must really envy us...

"...With gun restrictions making it harder to obtain private weapons in the UK, violent crimes involving guns have greatly decreased. The number of total violent crimes, however, is almost double that of the US..."
https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/violent-crime-us-abroad/

"...Using the FBI numbers, the violent crime rate fell 48% between 1993 and 2016. Using the BJS data, the rate fell 74% during that span.
Public perceptions about crime in the U.S. often don’t align with the data..."
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

"...Older data suggests that gun violence might have been even more widespread previously..."
"...This decline in gun violence is part of an overall decline in violent crime..."
"...the national rate of violent crime has decreased 49 percent since its apex in 1991. Even as a certain type of mass shooting is apparently becoming more frequent, America has become a much less violent place..."
       And LOOK, where this info is From !
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-dec...

"...It is important to note that in the states that allow open carry, violent crime was 23 percent lower, the murder rate was 5 percent lower, the aggravated assault rate was 23 percent lower and robbery rates were 36 percent lower...”
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/oct/09/matt-gaetz/violent-c...
And LOOK   AGAIN,  where this Info is from.   Which they rate as 1/2 true, that really had to hurt.  LOLOLOL

LostArtist wrote on 05/25/18 at 09:11:08:


Wow,  
That's what you do so you can pretend it's not true.

Throw that spare tire away
Cut the seatbelts
You don't have fire extinguishers do you?
Be the easiest victim you can be.
Otherwise you insult everyone.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/25/18 at 18:55:33:


no, I'm not denying that they are true, just statistically meaningless.  

deal with it.

LostArtist wrote on 05/29/18 at 15:44:49:


"Mass school shootings per year" is statistically meaningless in the big picture. (Far more kids are killed texting and driving but no one's calling for a cell phone ban.) To the people who are alive today, those anecdotes were pretty darn meaningful.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/30/18 at 08:19:12:

Ouch.  And these little cutesy stories about a good guy saving others might not be  Statistically significant, unless you happen to be one of the people protected from a bad guy. Or a friend or family. Or maybe the child who Will be born, because someone saved your future mom or dad. It's NOT WHAT YOU WANT, so it's statistically irrelevant. It's okay for cops to carry guns.
They are JUST PEOPLE, not made of anything special. Not smarter than average, just people. But THEY should Bring a gun and save you. You shouldn't have your own.  That's gutless

"...But THEY should Bring a gun and save you...."
Their was a saying:
‘Dial 911, a cop is only 15 minuets away’
Which is  STILL,  True today !

"...You shouldn't have your own.  That's gutless..."
Reminds me of a Sign that someone gave to me, when I started my, (GASP), Gun shop.
It said: ‘I Don’t Dial 911’.
‘bought a year later, I had some wide masking tape,
and wrote with a big black marker:
    “Till  After”
Then taped it to the end of the sign.
That got Many More comments, then the original one.
  (ALL GOOD)