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Reply #60 - 04/15/18 at 10:26:00
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/15/18 at 10:16:52:
Serowbot wrote on 04/15/18 at 07:28:46:
Should pregnant women get two votes?...


Clever.
How's that working for you?

I enjoy it.  Grin

Look,.. this is a subject that is impossible to reconcile.
The approach is from entirely different perspectives.

The only options are to become irate about it,... or to let the water slide of yer' back.
My point in joking is to illustrate the futility of the discussion.
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Reply #61 - 04/15/18 at 10:26:02
 
Trippah wrote on 04/15/18 at 07:39:45:
I am always confused by the right to life thing.  We, as a nation, kill innocent blacks through police intervention it seems every week..no outrage from the Right To Life Group.  We kill 100,00 innocent people who'se government we don't like, but no outrage?  But, if a girl is date raped and becomes pregnant you say she must carry this sacred seed of the Devil because why?  An what may she do when the child is born, keep it, sell it, trade it away?  Are you willing to legally impede the socialite who takes a  two month "vacation" at a clinic/spa in Europe?



And this is my opinion on the post.
It is Not a Statement of,
 'Your Wrong because you don't believe the SAME  thing"

"...kill innocent blacks through police intervention it seems every week...."
Don't know where this is happening ???  
Can you site facts that it is the Police, not the rival gang/s that live next door ?

"...We kill 100,00 innocent people who's government we don't like...."

That would be the person, that was elected.
And if it is reference to the Latest,
     HRC, would have done MORE.

"...a girl is date raped and becomes pregnant you say she must carry this sacred seed of the Devil..."

 Don't believe anyone is saying that.

"...willing to legally impede the socialite who takes a  two month "vacation" ..."
The Supreme Court, said she can.  Just that, in the case you showed, if that person chooses to KILL her  baby, she will not be arrested.
AND, SHE, will pay for it.
  NOT,  YOU and Me.




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Reply #62 - 04/15/18 at 11:51:15
 
raydawg wrote on 04/14/18 at 14:25:10:
Folks still won’t entertain the mindset, and arguments, as interchangeable, with gun rights, and abortion rights.
Who needs to kill a baby as a means to birth control......
Why?  Are there not many other means available to them for this, other than risking reproductive damage to self, and killing another life, in the process?  It’s expensive, huge profits for some, at a great cost to society?
How can you pick and choose which life is worth saving, and which one is not?  Convenance?  Maybe some extend upon this mindset and mentality as just cause to shoot up a school, when they feel it will right a slight, or some over issue/concern they have......  A life is expendable, we have already established that.   Guns.   It’s your right to arm yourself over the threat of tyranny that exsisted way back at the founding of our nation.
Is it possible that threat no longer exsist, or has changed so much that thinking guns could combat such a action by the present government?
But, but, but.....It’s our right.  So is my free speech.  To call you two peas in the same pod.  Even tho you will never entertain you are the problems.


Abortion was started, (in this country), as a way to remove undesirable people from over population.
Then it became, a ‘hot topic’, to be discussed by religions, and not religious people.
Then the Supreme court decided, it was legal.
(Many changes has happened to row/wade, but fundamentally it is the same)
Today, a woman can kill the baby inside her, with no  legal repercussions.
  (Yep, I said Kill, not, abort)  Some do, and pay for it on their own.
Most have, YOU, pay for it, and instead of bothering to take a pill, or practice safe sex,
use abortion as a convent form of Birth Control,
which they don’t have to pay for.
Here is a Idea:
 Abortion, if it is, ’Tax Payer’, money that pays for it.  
You get One free, AND, at the same time, you also get sterilized.

  (Wait, do the Progressive Fairy Dust Sprinklers, believe that is a intrusion on free will and liberty ?)
           OR,
(Do the Conservative, freedom lovers, believe that is a intrusion on free will and liberty ?)

Look at Guns
 It was started as a way to stop any, ‘government’, from forcing their will on the People.
It is basically the same today, (although more symbolic). Yet still viable.
Their are people who say, ‘Guns’, or a, ‘Certain’, gun is Bad.
And it/they, have NO use, and you should not be Free to posses one.

(Wait, do the Progressive Fairy Dust Sprinklers, believe that is a intrusion on free will and liberty ?)
       OR,
(Do the Conservative, freedom lovers, believe that is a intrusion on free will and liberty ?)


Is it the Left that wants one thing,
   and the Right wants the other?
        Or is it the other way around?
Is it, the Left, or the Right,  that want both ?
Is it the Right or the Left, that want neither?
Is it some on the Left, or is it some on the Right,
    that want Some of this, and some of that?
Which part do, some want, which part do they not want?

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Reply #63 - 04/15/18 at 12:33:00
 
Too much to consider....
Just remember, Thursday nights, 7PM, at the home, chocolate pudding....
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Reply #64 - 04/15/18 at 12:59:36
 
Trippah wrote on 04/15/18 at 07:39:45:
I am always confused by the right to life thing.  We, as a nation, kill innocent blacks through police intervention it seems every week..no outrage from the Right To Life Group.  We kill 100,00 innocent people who'se government we don't like, but no outrage?  But, if a girl is date raped and becomes pregnant you say she must carry this sacred seed of the Devil because why?  An what may she do when the child is born, keep it, sell it, trade it away?  Are you willing to legally impede the socialite who takes a  two month "vacation" at a clinic/spa in Europe?




This sacred seed of the Devil?  Huh

This  woman who was a product of rape,  became a EMT (how many people has she saved during her career?)

https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/pennsylvania-burger-king-baby-reunion/index...



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Reply #65 - 04/15/18 at 15:33:47
 
Matchless G11 wrote on 04/15/18 at 12:59:36:
Trippah wrote on 04/15/18 at 07:39:45:
I am always confused by the right to life thing.  We, as a nation, kill innocent blacks through police intervention it seems every week..no outrage from the Right To Life Group.  We kill 100,00 innocent people who'se government we don't like, but no outrage?  But, if a girl is date raped and becomes pregnant you say she must carry this sacred seed of the Devil because why?  An what may she do when the child is born, keep it, sell it, trade it away?  Are you willing to legally impede the socialite who takes a  two month "vacation" at a clinic/spa in Europe?




This sacred seed of the Devil?  Huh

This  woman who was a product of rape,  became a EMT (how many people has she saved during her career?)

https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/pennsylvania-burger-king-baby-reunion/index...





 I don't think we should force women to have rapist's babies because those babies might become an EMT.

 By this logic we could easily say that the EMT position was going to be available anyway, and that the EMT in the article could be worse than the other person that would have been hired if she hadn't been born.

 Lets try to avoid those rabbit holes.
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Reply #66 - 04/15/18 at 15:39:21
 
It’s birth control, lazy azz birth control....
Leave all the other side arguments off of it.
Argue those under their own merit if you like, but it’s draconian birth control, period.
It undermines and degrades society just as much as sexism, racism, ism-isms....
Call it what it is, putting lipstick on a pig is still a pig!
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Reply #67 - 04/15/18 at 16:12:35
 
raydawg wrote on 04/15/18 at 15:39:21:
It’s birth control, lazy azz birth control....

No, it's not.  You are wrong once again.

Leave all the other side arguments off of it.
Argue those under their own merit if you like, but it’s draconian birth control, period.

How many lives have you left in your splooge towel ray?
Grin Grin Grin Grin

It undermines and degrades society just as much as sexism, racism, ism-isms....

Only in your little world ray.

Call it what it is, putting lipstick on a pig is still a pig!



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Reply #68 - 04/15/18 at 16:18:26
 
Rape and then abortion.
Two wrongs are not making a right.
The number of pregnancies from rape is rare, so the number of abortions  from rape is also rare.

No Abortion is mainly just birth control.
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Reply #69 - 04/15/18 at 16:37:55
 
Matchless G11 wrote on 04/15/18 at 16:18:26:
Rape and then abortion.
Two wrongs are not making a right.
The number of pregnancies from rape is rare, so the number of abortions  from rape is also rare.

No Abortion is mainly just birth control.


 I still think its the victim's decision what she can do with her body.  
 Your outlook or anyone else's on life or religion doesn't put you in that victims position, so just let them decide no matter how rare.
 
 This reminds me of stem cell treatment.  People are against it until they or a family member will die, or suffer lifelong disability then all the sudden its not so bad.
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Reply #70 - 04/15/18 at 17:29:10
 
I still think its the victim's decision what she can do with her body.  

Then prostitutes should NOT be in the NEWS, if that is the rationale behind abortion.
Drugs of any kind, should not be regulated, or made illegal, if its to use in your body only.
I can sell any part I want, of my body, for profit, then.
I can walk around nude, if I like, its my body, don't look, if it bothers you....
I can maim myself too, its my body.

Yeah, crazy eh?
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Reply #71 - 04/16/18 at 03:32:15
 
The rape case again is such a small of number of abortions. Unfortunately people make the justification for abortion on demand during all nine months for the rare exemption.
The same kind of argument is made against using seat belts or helmets.

Like
"My uncle Ernie would have been killed if he was not thrown from the wreck."
Or
"Wear a helmet and  you will snap your neck in a accident."
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Reply #72 - 04/16/18 at 06:48:24
 
raydawg wrote on 04/15/18 at 17:29:10:
I still think its the victim's decision what she can do with her body.  

Then prostitutes should NOT be in the NEWS, if that is the rationale behind abortion.
Drugs of any kind, should not be regulated, or made illegal, if its to use in your body only.
I can sell any part I want, of my body, for profit, then.
I can walk around nude, if I like, its my body, don't look, if it bothers you....
I can maim myself too, its my body.

Yeah, crazy eh?



 Which one of your examples is not the choice of the participant?  All those examples are people choosing to commit crime or mutilate themselves.

 A rape victim has the assault, the lifelong emotional trauma and a pregnancy forced on her by someone else.  

 The term "victim" was used intentionally.  

 Again people say we have the better decision than the victim but the tune changes when its their sister being forced to carry a baby to term from a man or group of men that forcibly raped her.  
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Reply #73 - 04/16/18 at 08:01:01
 
Eegore wrote on 04/16/18 at 06:48:24:
"...   Which one of your examples is not the choice of the participant?  All those examples are people choosing to commit crime or mutilate themselves...."  

So  exactly, how is that different than, someone, ‘Choosing’, abortion as a form of Birth Control?

The, ‘Crime,’ part, has been removed from abortion.
So why NOT,  remove the, ‘Crime’ part, from selling body parts, or Drugs,  etc, etc.

Currently, Selling  Body Parts, for a, ‘Citizen’ is illegal.
Selling Body Parts, from a, ‘Non Citizen’, (as a Aborted Baby)
     is  Perfectly All Right !
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Reply #74 - 04/16/18 at 09:10:44
 
Oh gee, I must leave this site.....

I have been called out, ridiculed, made fun of.....

Well, maybe I will wait to see if Fair Bob the heart and soul of all that is righteous in this world.....

Comes to my defense.

How many lives have you left in your splooge towel ray?


It undermines and degrades society just as much as sexism, racism, ism-isms....

Only in your little world ray.


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