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How to (legally) get rid of a gun?
04/12/18 at 08:42:19

This is not a motorcycle related question. This is a firearm related question, one of my other expensive, time consuming, pointless hobbies. I have a Survival Arms AR-7, .22, produced between 1990-1997, bought new. It has been an absolute disaster. A gun for "survival" must be, above all, reliable and accurate. This gun, despite many attempts to fix it, has never been either. This is NOT the Henry version (I wish it was!). It is actually not safe to shoot. Therefore I would never sell it even with a disclaimer. So, all you gun-smart dudes out there, what is a legal way to permanently take a firearm out of circulation and get rid of the aftermath? I have been waiting for a gun buy-back program to no avail.

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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5857 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #1 - 04/12/18 at 08:59:01 Polish and clean it really good and head for you local pawn shop ! Trade it for something and wish the new owner Good Luck ! Sell it to a Gun Smith would be the best thing to do with it ... or ... I'm sure I could modify it to act right ... How far away are you from middle Tn. ?
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #2 - 04/12/18 at 10:11:53 Simple. If you want to take it out of commission, a band saw to the barrel, then filling all the voids with cement, will do the trick.
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Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun?
Reply #3 - 04/12/18 at 10:23:58

Grind the numbers and other identifying info completely off and cut it up into little pieces. Parts that can be smashed take a sledge to them so that all you have is a container with scrape metal in it. Throw that into a box with other assorted metal pieces you may have collected, nuts, bolts, springs, rusty anything, and take it to a salvage place and sell the box of metal. It will all be melted and gone.
If anyone asks you, them it was a danger to fire so you destroyed it.
You own it and you can destroy it if you wish. It will certainly not turn up anywhere so no one can come after you for it.
You can even take a photo of the pile of destroyed parts and the receipt for the scrap metal you sold, if you wanted to keep them for proof of destruction.

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badwolf Serious Thumper Offline Ridin' my Lil' Bagger - 153k miles so far Posts: 805 Palm Beach County, FL Gender:	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #4 - 04/12/18 at 10:40:55 Don't grind off the sn#! You can go to jail for that! I go along with cuting it up into peices, but turn the pieces into the local PD. They should even give you a reciept. But a reciever with no numbers is a ticket to jail.
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10687 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #5 - 04/12/18 at 11:34:53 badwolf wrote on 04/12/18 at 10:40:55: Don't grind off the sn#! You can go to jail for that! I go along with cuting it up into peices, but turn the pieces into the local PD. They should even give you a reciept. But a reciever with no numbers is a ticket to jail. JAIL...don't like that.
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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1175 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #6 - 04/12/18 at 11:46:15 Just turn it into the PD? Why go to all the trouble cutting it up if you turn it over to the PoPo?
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Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun?
Reply #7 - 04/12/18 at 12:13:31

Why do anything? I understand that those things aren't any great shakes of a rifle, but so what?Take it apart, store the parts in the stock like it's designed for,toss it in the back of your closet, and forget about it. You don't have to feed or water it, it doesn't take up much room, it isn't going to make any noise, and it won't crap on the floor or chew up your shoes. Someday you might wish you still had it.

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Reply #8 - 04/12/18 at 15:50:48

[highliWhy do anything? I understand that those things aren't any great shakes of a rifle, but so what?Take it apart, store the parts in the stock like it's designed for,toss it in the back of your closet, and forget about it. You don't have to feed or water it, it doesn't take up much room, it isn't going to make any noise, and it won't crap on the floor or chew up your shoes. Someday you might wish you still had it. ght] [/highlight]

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Reply #9 - 04/12/18 at 18:18:07

Thanks all for the good suggestions. I bought this thing in '95 on a whim, from a place with a "No Return" policy. If you are at all familiar with this travesty (see internet reviews, NOT the Henry version!) no one ever had any luck with it. It cannot be repaired; several gunsmiths have tried. It just has too many faults. The worst fault: sometimes the firing pin will jam, and when you charge the weapon, it goes off. If it actually feeds the way it's supposed to (rarely), it will exhaust all 7 rounds from the magazine automatically, in whatever direction it's pointing. Got thrown off the range when that happened. I suppose cutting it up is probably the best idea. Many shooters tell me that when Henry bought the rights in '98, they solved all the problems. Maybe I'll get one of those.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8534	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #10 - 04/12/18 at 20:52:01 You can just cut it up and turn it over to local police, if they wont for some reason take it then damage the parts further if you want, but do not file off those numbers. I've cut a barrel and turned in parts due to safety issues myself for a friend.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #11 - 04/12/18 at 21:05:45 Does that manufacturer still exist?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28903 L.A. California Gender:	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #12 - 04/12/18 at 22:44:06 If you turn it in, take it all apart, take out a significant part and replace it with a piece of junk from something else. really piss someone off trying to put it back together.
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun? Reply #13 - 04/13/18 at 08:04:04 I would suggest you just ship it to me.....
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Re: How to (legally) get rid of a gun?
Reply #14 - 04/13/18 at 08:50:54

A good way to make a gun inoperative? Take the firing pin out. If you need help with disassembly, there are multiple online videos for just about any gun out there. Put the gun back together (without firing pin), and you know it will be safe.

Mere possession of a gun with ground off serial numbers is a felony.

Some people have been prosecuted for having a firearm capable of full automatic fire, even when it should have been obvious it was not their intent (the firearm was faulty).

A jamming firing pin may cause full auto fire, so will a faulty sear engagement (trigger assembly). A competent gunsmith should have been able to rectify that problem. It may not be cost efficient though, as the AR-7 is not a high end gun.

Where are you located?

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