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03/28/18 at 20:02:58
 
Are you a legal citizen?

No, No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You can't ask that,
Have you not heard of privacy?

Ok.... geez.

Question.

Do you, are anyone residing at this address, own a gun?

GREAT FUCCKING QUESTION.....Right ON!

Scotty..... where is that gawd darn beam..... I'm WAITING!
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Reply #1 - 03/28/18 at 21:35:57
 
2010 I answered names and number of people living here.
Period, whoa, halt,
Full stop.

A week or so later someone drove down the driveway and wanted me to answer all the questions.
I said
No..
Census

Do the feds have a right to income, job blah blah blah?
No

They always have a right to know if someone is here legally or not.

Clinton asked
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Reply #2 - 04/02/18 at 12:23:49
 
Did the same in 2010.
2 people living here, both Born in the USA, Both voting Citizens.
Nothing else.
Later, a car drove down the drive, I was outside,
a gal asked me all sorts of totally irrelevant questions.

I asked Her, about the G.P.S. she had.
She: “What did you call it ?”
Me:  (I explained it, and how it worked.)
She: “No Way, their are no satellites in the sky, sending a signal down to this little thing.”

Note to self:
  Just GOTTA,   Get one of dem dar  Fderal  Guberment jobs,
where  yas done net need ta now nothin.


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Reply #3 - 04/02/18 at 15:20:58
 

 Isn't the reason for not asking citizenship an attempt to have a more accurate census?
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Reply #4 - 04/02/18 at 15:27:15
 
Eegore wrote on 04/02/18 at 15:20:58:
 Isn't the reason for not asking citizenship an attempt to have a more accurate census?


Huh?

Absents of data, information, is more accurate, how so?

That is like a polling question thus:

Choose one:

A. I will vote for Trump.
B. I will vote for Hillary
C. I wish I had a third choice.

Results are in, Folks wish they had someone else to vote for other than Trump.
Using this data collected, it looks like Hillary will be the next president.  
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Reply #5 - 04/02/18 at 15:33:51
 

 People are less likely to decline answering questions, or answer more honestly if they don't believe there will be legal ramifications.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597436512/fact-check-has-citizenship-been-a-st...

The concern expressed by states with large undocumented immigrant populations is that asking about citizenship will scare people off, forms won't get filled out and the count won't be accurate, affecting federal funding and the number of congressional seats. (The Census Bureau is legally required to keep answers confidential, even from the FBI and other government entities. That means it isn't allowed to release data identifying an individual. But federal agencies and researchers can request census information on specific population groups.)
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Reply #6 - 04/02/18 at 15:42:57
 
We should fund illegality, really, why?
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Reply #7 - 04/02/18 at 15:43:15
 
Eegore wrote on 04/02/18 at 15:33:51:
 People are less likely to decline answering questions, or answer more honestly if they don't believe there will be legal ramifications.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597436512/fact-check-has-citizenship-been-a-st...

The concern expressed by states with large undocumented immigrant populations is that asking about citizenship will scare people off, forms won't get filled out and the count won't be accurate, affecting federal funding and the number of congressional seats. (The Census Bureau is legally required to keep answers confidential, even from the FBI and other government entities. That means it isn't allowed to release data identifying an individual. But federal agencies and researchers can request census information on specific population groups.)



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Reply #8 - 04/02/18 at 16:12:33
 
Let’s see If I got this right.

So the people that say:
  “No Illegal Aliens Voting Here”
Do Not, want to ask a question:
  “…Citizenship…”
Because it may scare, the,
        Non-Citizen ?


 
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Reply #9 - 04/02/18 at 16:19:01
 
So the people that say:
 “No Illegal Aliens Voting Here”
Do Not, want to ask a question:
 “…Citizenship…”
Because it may scare, the,
       Non-Citizen


 Partly.

 A diverse number of people and organizations who have looked over US Census data have shown that the numbers are less accurate if the citizenship question is asked.  These resources are nationwide, not exclusive to locations that are attempting to stop the upcoming census from implementing the change.
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Reply #10 - 04/02/18 at 16:32:02
 
MnSpring wrote on 04/02/18 at 16:12:33:
Let’s see If I got this right.

So the people that say:
  “No Illegal Aliens Voting Here”
Do Not, want to ask a question:
  “…Citizenship…”
Because it may scare, the,
        Non-Citizen ?


 


WTF...... Shocked

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Reply #11 - 04/02/18 at 16:43:44
 
Eegore wrote on 04/02/18 at 16:19:01:
 A diverse number of people and organizations who have looked over US Census data have shown that the numbers are less accurate if the citizenship question is asked.  These resources are nationwide, not exclusive to locations that are attempting to stop the upcoming census from implementing the change.

(Just using numbers here to make a point)

So let’s say, for example, I am the Mayor of a, Sanctuary City.
And the results of the census is in.

If the Question about “…Citizenship…” is in.
the population is recorded at 1 MILLON
(Because many were afraid to answer it,
  so they tossed it)
My City would get ‘X’ amount for this and that.

Or, say the “…Citizenship…” question is Out.
The population is recorded at 1.5 Million
My City would get ‘X’ amount, (more), for this and that.

        Any incentive anyone can see their ?

Of course one more , ‘advantage’,
The, voting, Percents/Districts, results
are Much Less, prone to say,
   (Because it is the Computer
  which first puts up the results)

101, 103, 105% Voting.
Until the, HUMANS, ‘Correct’ the info.

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Reply #12 - 04/03/18 at 12:26:30
 
In THE Spirit of Trumpism you get one I get one - lets do a deal.  Any illegals fessing up will be shot on site on sight; anyone fessing up to owning an AR-15 or AK-47 or RPG  will get a Presidential Medal of Goodness on their chest.
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