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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Classic 03/28/18 at 12:46:09 So I just got back from Nepal. Great trip. These RE classic 350's are everywhere. Does anyone have a Classic 500? Do you like it?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Classic Reply #1 - 03/28/18 at 13:02:03 Looks comfortable. Probably runs forever on that tank.
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2219 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #2 - 03/28/18 at 14:52:06 I actually like the looks of it. I think I would enjoy it.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18137 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #3 - 03/28/18 at 18:02:28 I have always liked the look. I am just a bit too spoiled by more power, more smoothness and more reliability to buy a Royal Enfield. (Perhaps I should ride one before I criticize them too much....as I am just repeating rumors about the lack of modern power, modern smoothness, and modern reliability).
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #4 - 03/28/18 at 18:14:12 You need to go to YouTube and put in Royal Enfield and watch both the praise and criticism.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18137 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #5 - 03/29/18 at 03:04:40 If I could find a late model Royal Enfield with a blown motor......I already have an extra Savage engine........ Royal Savage? Savage Enfield? Suzuki Royal? It look like that kind of an "engine ectomy" would not be easy as the final drive is on the other side - but I am sure it would be doable.
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Reply #6 - 03/29/18 at 08:04:17

Dave wrote on 03/29/18 at 03:04:40:

If I could find a late model Royal Enfield with a blown motor......I already have an extra Savage engine........

Royal Savage?
Savage Enfield?
Suzuki Royal?
Huh

It look like that kind of an "engine ectomy" would not be easy as the final drive is on the other side - but I am sure it would be doable.

That would be awesome. Due to crowded roads and bad road conditions the Nepalese never drive over maybe 45 miles an hour. they dont see the lack of power as an issue. When I tell them I ride a 650 they are amazed at how big and fast my bike must be. I told one guy my brother rides a 1,700 and he did not believe such a machine exist .

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Reply #7 - 03/31/18 at 05:17:27

Have worked and ridden a few. Old and new ones. The worst garbage produced in the modern world.
Lots of people love them. I'm not one. Working on one makes you realize how far things have come since the '40's when the bikes were designed.
The Continental is a pretty bike, with a semi-real chassis, but a big non-counterbalanced single on US roads is just no fun.
They still aren't up to the standards of 60's bikes, much less modern ones.
Again, some folks love them.
Kinda like adopting a brain dead quadriplegic with AIDs. Everyone needs a dad, so a pat on the head for you. You'll always feel needed. But there is only so far things will progress.
If you like the look, then put RE bodywork on a Savage.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18137 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #8 - 03/31/18 at 05:30:13 Is it just the engine that is primitive.....or is the chassis, wheels and brakes also antique? Would an engine transplant only fix a part of the problem(s)? Are the modern parts (fuel injection, electronic ignition) reliable? Is the engine primitive and shaky - but durable?
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Reply #9 - 03/31/18 at 08:48:29

Just take a long look at the rear wheel/axle/brake. Then look at the Savage. The Savage does the job with about 1/3 the parts. A lot has been learned in the last 80 years in terms of how to better make a bike.
The one I worked on from the 70's. Grease filled gearbox, because they couldn't get the boxes to hold oil. The one from the 90's-a Rube Goldberg shift linkage to get the bike to shift on the left. Absolutely terrible trans. The one from early 2000's, horrible electrics, crap detail, lousy fit and finish, total lack of modernization except the new(er) power plant.
Not fun to work on.
They just suck. Look at one closely.
Outhouses are durable too.
To each his own. I work in NYC. A few of my customers decided to have their winkie cut off, get a boob job, and call themselves girls. And my bud's daughter wants to trade in her hole for a pole. Everyone has a different idea of good time.

Buy one and find out.
Better to try to fit the bodywork on a Savage. There isn't enough poop polish on earth to make that sh-t shine.

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Reply #10 - 03/31/18 at 12:59:01

I have a friend that works on 60's/70's era Nortons - he does a lot of engine and transmission work on them. When I see how the engine/clutch/gearbox go together - I am glad that I have more modern bikes to ride and work on. The way that Norton designed the the clutch primary drive shaft to go though the center of the output shaft/drive sprocket to get into the transmission.......it sure is complicated and heavy looking.

It sounds like the Royal Enfield is built similarly complicated and primitive.

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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1452	Re: Classic Reply #11 - 03/31/18 at 19:43:05 40's English engineering and Indian build quality. Sounds like a hemmeroid transplant. Just say 'No!'
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18137 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Classic Reply #12 - 04/02/18 at 04:50:47 But......you can buy some engraved brass plated fenders! https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ROYAL-ENFIELD-BRASS-BRASS-ENGRAVED-FRONT-REAR-MU...
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: Classic Reply #13 - 04/02/18 at 10:07:42 I guess I will refrain from going out and buying one.
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HAPPYDAN Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 270	Re: Classic Reply #14 - 04/02/18 at 11:58:40 I recently saw a Royal Enfield Bullet C5 Military in OD green. A 500cc single. Really appeals to an old military man. But the reviews, which are all over the internet, tend to agree with Armen. If you want a good looking garage queen, she's your bike. Otherwise, go elsewhere! I'll stick with my S40, until something better comes along.
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