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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma Reply #15 - 03/28/18 at 12:34:31 Why are we talking about guns?
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma Reply #16 - 03/28/18 at 12:35:42 They just lack the language and lump that into “assault weapons” Which is a disservice. Is it to create a certain narrative, why? Is every weapon used, as to assault? Or, they used to protect? Maybe when folks get honest, we can get results.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma Reply #17 - 03/28/18 at 12:56:02 The GOVERNMENT FAILED. Many Times. Why is the big deal about guns, when the Government failed?
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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #18 - 03/28/18 at 13:10:10

T And T Garage wrote on 03/28/18 at 12:14:53:

SoC wrote on 03/26/18 at 09:13:05:

It's too bad Americans don't fully understand our constitution and have allowed our rights to slip away. The internet and social "media" replaced the press and now, a rapid resolve to do away with the 2nd Amendment through creating a misunderstanding of what it's about You don't need to convince people to give up their rights, just fool them that societal change whether through technology or populist movement is what is right and inevitable.

Which rights have "slipped away"?

Would that by like, Morton Grove, Ill.
The first place that, BANNED, ANY Handgun from being Owned by ANY Resident. ?

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ArkansasBrian Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 52 Little Rock, AR Gender:	Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma Reply #19 - 03/28/18 at 13:13:16 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-studen... Hey look! It's what the students actually asked for! Crazy how much it resembles exactly what I just said that most Americans say they want.
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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #20 - 03/28/18 at 14:14:10

ArkansasBrian wrote on 03/28/18 at 13:13:16:

"... Hey look! It's what the students actually asked for! Crazy how much it resembles exactly what I just said that most Americans say they want.

I Read it. And every one, with the exception of the statement:

“…As seen in the tragedy at our school, poor communication between mental healthcare providers and law enforcement may have contributed to a disturbed person with murderous tendencies and intentions entering a school and gunning down 17 people in cold blood….”

Is a statement from someone, who does NOT,
understand the laws already in place.
Does Not understand the,
difference between a, ‘Right’ and a ‘Privilege’.
Does Not understand,
when they are, ‘Parroting’ LIES, they have heard.

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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #21 - 03/28/18 at 14:25:31

ArkansasBrian wrote on 03/28/18 at 13:13:16:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-studen...

Hey look! It's what the students actually asked for! Crazy how much it resembles exactly what I just said that most Americans say they want.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...... waaaay too much logic in that link!

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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #22 - 03/28/18 at 15:50:40

I think that most actual individuals are being as honest as they know how to be. The media is painting exaggerated narratives of both sides, and many individuals are parroting those narratives to discredit those with whom they disagree. People can understand the Constitution, current laws, the difference between rights priveledges, and still come to different conclusions. It's fairly normal to assume anyone who disagrees with me must lack either facts or understanding, but it's just not true.

It's also a nuts place from which to begin a productive conversation.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma Reply #23 - 03/28/18 at 16:15:44 Civilians shouldn’t have access to the same weapons that soldiers do. That’s a gross misuse of the second amendment. Ahhh, NOO. Do I have to explain WHY again?
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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #24 - 03/29/18 at 09:04:37

ArkansasBrian wrote on 03/28/18 at 15:50:40:

I think that most actual individuals are being as honest as they know how to be. The media is painting exaggerated narratives of both sides, and many individuals are parroting those narratives to discredit those with whom they disagree. People can understand the Constitution, current laws, the difference between rights priveledges, and still come to different conclusions. It's fairly normal to assume anyone who disagrees with me must lack either facts or understanding, but it's just not true...."

"...People can understand and still come to different conclusions..."

Yes in many cases that can be true.
Yet the ‘manifesto’, listed on post #19.
I believe it is very clear, that the people making those statements,
ARE, ignorant of,
the Constitution, current laws, the difference between rights privileges.

Because each one of those statements can be refuted with absolute FACTS,
Except the ONE Paragraph,
“…As seen in the tragedy at our school, poor communication between mental healthcare providers and law enforcement may have contributed to a disturbed person with murderous tendencies and intentions entering a school and gunning down 17 people in cold blood….”

(Only thing that could be changed is the 2 words, "May have" to one word, 'DID")

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Re: Bankruptcy just took Remington, Bushmaster, Ma
Reply #25 - 03/30/18 at 08:40:03

Kinda hard to call something
Poor Communication
When straight up warnings were given.
The straw man of lack of
Mental health communication with
Law enforcement deflects from the
Facts of documented illegal and threatening behavior being brought to the attention of the FBI and local leos.
The SRO who bravely took the position behind his car had
Tried to get Cruz committed.
He recommended it.
Over a year prior.
And the kid who stabbed those people was on the FBI s radar
And they did NOTHING.

BUT
GUNZ

Phhht.

When I understand
2+2=4
And you say you understand
2+2, but you say it's 5,
Someone don't Fully understand.

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