Didn't Remington come under intense economic pressure for selling an over/under that had many(some?) fatal incidents - putting them in peril even before the Bushmaster Sandy Hook financial debacle, prelude to the present onslaught?  

I am not sure (OK, Haven't a clue) but don't the arms manufacturers share the same problem Harley Davidson has  ...they have (1) oversaturated the market., and (2) fewer and fewer percent of the population feel the need or desire their motorcycle or gun.

Oddly my fist rifle was a Savage, as so far was my last motorcycle.

It is really a culture thing.  Most city/suburban folks do not have an interest is guns - they are to busy with school and soccer. Oddly, the city suburbs should be primo local for motorcycles (at least smaller 650cc or less) bikes but then, there is little thrill in sitting in traffic.
We ALL know, the open twisty roads is where the love is.

I have noticed in all the local Fayetteville (North) hometown parades that the Boy Scout contingent keep shrinking, while the soccer group keep growing.  (cue Bobby Dylan...and the times, they.....)

This may be a good thing,, in that the army may finally get a chance to get a newer, better weapon than the not all that good (compared to its rival the kalishnikov) m-16 -M4.
Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan have all shown our standard rifle(s) to be too prone to failure in crappy  (soggy or sandy) conditions and since we have wisely not invited our "enemies" to fight it out in our cities, maybe the log jam will be broken.

Sums it up pretty well.
Now children are demanding things that they don't understand, not realizing that
Today's problems
ARE the consequences of
Yesterday's lousy solutions
To problems.

Remington went bankrupt because gun sales are down. Gun sales are down because A) the market is saturated and B) No one is scared Trump is trying to take their guns away. Obama never was either, but they convinced people he was and it succeeded tremendously in bolstering sales.

Lefties by and large are NOT opposed to the second amendment. The right-wing media, politicians and gun manufacturers put a lot of effort in to convincing us that they are, but it’s simply not true. If you paint a ridiculous caricature of your opponent, it is easy to mock that caricature and prove it wrong. Most on the left (and in the center and honestly many on the right) simply want some reasonable checks to make it more difficult for disturbed and dangerous people to obtain high-capacity magazines and high-velocity rounds. Expanded background checks (private sales and gun shows provide an outsized loophole) and basic competency requirements (Something most consider pretty reasonable for motor vehicles) are not ridiculous requests or serious attacks on the second amendment. “Assault Weapons Bans” are certainly misguided due to a lack of understanding/definition of the term, but what they’re really aiming for (with the wrong language) are limits to magazine capacity and regulation of high-velocity rounds in semi-automatic weapons. They just lack the language and lump that into “assault weapons”.

Lefties by and large are NOT opposed to the second amendment. The right-wing media, politicians and gun manufacturers put a lot of effort in to convincing us that they are, but it’s simply not true.


That explains why the only voices being given microphones are those kids who want to ban guns and the family of the girl who says Don't ban guns, harden the schools has no media coverage.
Yeah, the right wing media is telling us what the left WANT.
Crap..
Pelosi

Mr. And Mrs. America, turn them all in.

If that's not a statement of desire, tell me what it is.

I own guns. I served in the US Army for 23 years. I carried an M16, and later an M1911. I am not a fan of gun control, but I don't believe any private citizen has any valid need for an AR15 or AK47, or any of the other myriad so-called "assault weapons", whose sole design and purpose is to kill a whole lotta people real quick. That should be left to military and law enforcement. But my point is moot. Within the USA, there are already so many of these types in closets, garages, bedrooms, attics, pick up trucks and gun safes that we're going to have these for a long time to come. So, where do we go from here? Legislation, short of confiscation, will have little or no effect. Australia figured it out. Maybe we can borrow some ideas from them.

SoC wrote on 03/26/18 at 09:13:05:


Which rights have "slipped away"?