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were Trump supporters duped?
03/20/18 at 10:05:35
 
Millions of Trump voters ( I know not everyone cause some are special  Wink ) but enough were deceived by Trump's campaign and Robert Mercer's super PAC (that's a whole other level to this, hopefully the FEC throws the book at them) .

     
Hidden camera shows Cambridge Analytica pitching deceptive tactics

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/hidden-camera-shows-cambridge-analytica-pitc...


and NO Obama didn't do this too, not exactly.  the details are important, Obama's methods were more open and transparent



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👋 I ran the Obama 2008 data-driven microtargeting team. How dare you! We didn’t steal private Facebook profile data from voters under false pretenses. OFA voluntarily solicited opinions of hundreds of thousands of voters. We didn’t commit theft to do our groundbreaking work.

11:45 PM - Mar 17, 2018

now there are a whole lot of things popping up and I'm not well versed in everything so excuse me if I'm not 100% accurate on everything, so yes there is room for Obama's campaign to be worse than what I currently think it is, but none of that excuses Trump's campaign from his actions here.  two wrongs don't make a right, Trump supporters need to quit trying to do that

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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #1 - 03/20/18 at 10:42:56
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 03/20/18 at 10:05:35:
Millions of Trump voters ( I know not everyone cause some are special  Wink ) but enough were deceived by Trump's campaign and Robert Mercer's super PAC (that's a whole other level to this, hopefully the FEC throws the book at them) .

     
Hidden camera shows Cambridge Analytica pitching deceptive tactics

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/hidden-camera-shows-cambridge-analytica-pitc...


and NO Obama didn't do this too, not exactly.  the details are important, Obama's methods were more open and transparent



Michael Simon

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👋 I ran the Obama 2008 data-driven microtargeting team. How dare you! We didn’t steal private Facebook profile data from voters under false pretenses. OFA voluntarily solicited opinions of hundreds of thousands of voters. We didn’t commit theft to do our groundbreaking work.

11:45 PM - Mar 17, 2018

now there are a whole lot of things popping up and I'm not well versed in everything so excuse me if I'm not 100% accurate on everything, so yes there is room for Obama's campaign to be worse than what I currently think it is, but none of that excuses Trump's campaign from his actions here.  two wrongs don't make a right, Trump supporters need to quit trying to do that



You beat me to the punch on this one Lost.

Nicely done!
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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #2 - 03/20/18 at 10:50:33
 
Nobody was persuaded to vote for Trump based on Facebook ads and data. How ridiculous. He was getting trashed and labeled dangerous on the network news every single night for a year and still won.

Let it go losers. You got your a$$ kick because you put up a lying witch of a woman as likable as a case of the Clap. 2nd choice was a crazy socialist aging hippie. Trump appealed to a bunch of your former  constituents you treated like dog $hit. I'm convinced you will eventually win your war to destroy America but Trump won the last battle and delayed the enviable.
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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #3 - 03/20/18 at 11:04:41
 
I didn't want to have to type that.
Thanks for grabbing them by the neck and pointing out reality for them,
Again.
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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #4 - 03/20/18 at 11:43:06
 
I really don't like facebook anyway.
I crop the window so those ads don't appear at all.
Then they went to displaying anything posted in by my friends and their friends it was a disaster.
I'm mainly on there to see what my family is up to anyway.
online surveys... never.
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Reply #5 - 03/20/18 at 12:07:55
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/20/18 at 10:50:33:
Nobody was persuaded to vote for Trump based on Facebook ads and data. How ridiculous. He was getting trashed and labeled dangerous on the network news every single night for a year and still won.  So, is fox not a network?  Is CNBC not a network?

Let it go losers. You got your a$$ kick because you put up a lying witch of a woman as likable as a case of the Clap. 2nd choice was a crazy socialist aging hippie. Trump appealed to a bunch of your former  constituents you treated like dog $hit. I'm convinced you will eventually win your war to destroy America but Trump won the last battle and delayed the enviable.


Hmm.. so if hillary was indeed that unlikeable, why then did she get nearly 3 million more votes than our president?

Hey web - how's our president's approval rating these days?

Yeah... he's a "winner" alright!
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Reply #6 - 03/20/18 at 12:12:49
 
She got 3 million more votes.

Like I said, you'll win the war, but you lost this battle. The battle wasn't fought with majority votes, it was fought in a manner that gives a disproportionate voice to rural areas. Basically the electoral college allows the land a vote.

And you silly fixation on approval ratings is meaningless. Big deal.
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Reply #7 - 03/20/18 at 12:18:00
 
verslagen1 wrote on 03/20/18 at 11:43:06:
I really don't like facebook anyway.
I crop the window so those ads don't appear at all.
Then they went to displaying anything posted in by my friends and their friends it was a disaster.
I'm mainly on there to see what my family is up to anyway.
online surveys... never.


Oh vers...

You think it's only ads?  Do you have any idea how much data is passed through your clicks outside facebook and then put through algorithms for facebook??

You think that by ignoring the ads that you don't get targeted?  Ha!!

Take it from someone who knows - the tactics used by Cambridge Analytica are done all the time - although they did it illegally.

Once you log on to facebook, google, amazon, yahoo or any other big online entity, it's begun.  

I've reviewed some google analytics that'd make your head spin!
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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #8 - 03/20/18 at 12:23:37
 
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Re: were Trump supporters duped?
Reply #9 - 03/20/18 at 12:23:39
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:12:49:
Basically the electoral college allows the land a vote.


Corporations are people...  dirt are people...

So it's true,... Republicans are dumb as dirt... Grin
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Reply #10 - 03/20/18 at 12:26:25
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:12:49:
She got 3 million more votes.

Like I said, you'll win the war, but you lost this battle. The battle wasn't fought with majority votes, it was fought in a manner that gives a disproportionate voice to rural areas. Basically the electoral college allows the land a vote.

Hmmm... remind me, what did our president once say about the electoral college?....   LOL

And you silly fixation on approval ratings is meaningless. Big deal.


Yeah, right, it's not a big deal... it only has to do with public opinion... pshaw!   LOL

Seriously though web, what "war" are you talking about?  Why is it that you think things like single payer health insurance (or medicare for all), free basic college tuition, a higher minimum wage, restrictions on some firearms, equal rights for all, social security, medicare, investment in infrastructure, getting corporate money out of politics - to mention only a few... is going to destroy the Country?

I'm asking honestly.  How?
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Reply #11 - 03/20/18 at 12:27:01
 
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Reply #12 - 03/20/18 at 12:27:31
 
verslagen1 wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:23:37:
yawn



LOL - yep... and that's why it is the way it is... you yawn and have no idea.

No worries - I'm sure you're fine.....
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Reply #13 - 03/20/18 at 12:30:16
 
raydawg wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:27:01:



OK ray - do you want to know why Cambridge Analytica was in the wrong, or will you just blindly believe an editorial?

Let me know.
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Reply #14 - 03/20/18 at 12:31:43
 
T And T Garage wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:26:25:
WebsterMark wrote on 03/20/18 at 12:12:49:
She got 3 million more votes.

Like I said, you'll win the war, but you lost this battle. The battle wasn't fought with majority votes, it was fought in a manner that gives a disproportionate voice to rural areas. Basically the electoral college allows the land a vote.

Hmmm... remind me, what did our president once say about the electoral college?....   LOL

And you silly fixation on approval ratings is meaningless. Big deal.


Yeah, right, it's not a big deal... it only has to do with public opinion... pshaw!   LOL

Seriously though web, what "war" are you talking about?  Why is it that you think things like single payer health insurance (or medicare for all), free basic college tuition, a higher minimum wage, restrictions on some firearms, equal rights for all, social security, medicare, investment in infrastructure, getting corporate money out of politics - to mention only a few... is going to destroy the Country?

I'm asking honestly.  How?


If I thought for one freaking second, you'd stick through this conversation to the end without being your typical di@khead self, I'd engage.

But I'm home this week, not traveling and you caught me in a good mood.

Okay, (imagine the voice of the guy in Saw) "Okay, let's play a game"

Pick one.  
Why is it that you think things like single payer health insurance (or medicare for all), free basic college tuition, a higher minimum wage, restrictions on some firearms, equal rights for all, social security, medicare, investment in infrastructure, getting corporate money out of politics
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