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Re: AI phase-in rocks all computing worlds
Reply #15 - 03/16/18 at 00:11:18
 

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/265695-cts-labs-responds-allegations-ba...


OK, this one is fairly direct and damming -- ASMedia chipsets are not just used in AMD processors sets, they are used in far far far more INTEL processor sets than AMD and this high Intel use level is over six years old at this point.

This makes Intel a suspiciously likely source for the giving out of the CTS assignment, the instructions (including language and codes) and the giving out of a tightly coded test coding sample to show the issue is real, a test coding sample that works on AMD processor sets (and perhaps the same carefully written test coding sample will NOT work on Intel processor sets using the same compromised ASMedia chipsets ????)


Roll Eyes       oooooh, this is a fun one, huh?   Spy vs Spy all the way .....



The stock market manipulation has become a lot clearer too.    A simultaneously released report from a firm trying to short AMD’s stock made the entire affair look particularly shady, especially since the firm in question, Viceroy Research, carried out a nearly identical attack on a German company just a week ago. In that case, Viceroy took a large short position on the German company ProSieben, then accused it of questionable accounting practices.

Also the pure biased intentional "finding of the issue with AMD" had become well framed by CTS's own people giving out statements like this:

CTS's Zilberman tacitly acknowledges this when he writes:

We have started researching ASMedia chips about a year ago. After researching for some time, we have found manufacturer backdoors inside the chip which give you full control over the chips (ASM1042, ASM1142, ASM1143). We wanted to go public with the findings, but then saw that AMD have outsourced their chipset to ASMedia. So we decided to check the state of AMD, we bought a Ryzen computer, and whimsically ran our exploit PoC, and it just worked out of the box.


Zilberman, who stopped you from announcing the Intel vulnerability that you found about a year ago by your own words?    You, who are so gung ho about instantly exposing dirty laundry?    

Who gave you the language and the access codes etc to get inside THREE GENERATIONS of ASMedia chipsets?

Who gave you the methodology to PARK A PERMANENT, HIDDEN MALWARE INSIDE THE ASMEDIA CHIPSETS ????
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Re: AI phase-in rocks all computing worlds
Reply #16 - 03/17/18 at 04:15:40
 

OK, now what does this all shake out to mean?

All PCs are fairly insecure spaghetti strainers, they all leak badly because of construction choices made way back at the dawn of the Wintel/IBM era that are all still around to haunt us.

Yes, there are multiple backdoors and various ways inside the physical construction of a modern PC machine's boot cycle, most egregious are the secret pathways that Microsoft had built into it to be used to update your machine at night even though the machine was turned off (and yes, if they want to they can cause your machine to boot up secretly showing no activity lights just as long as it is connected to the web through a internet service and a router and both have power to them).  

You are now being set up by the Wintel boys to make you want to go buy an expensive new PC just so you can get some small sense of security and some small part of your old operating speed back.

Do not go buy another PC !!!    ---  spend your money on the next wave of tech which is defining itself as you watch.
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Reply #17 - 03/19/18 at 05:10:13
 
Fuchsia Friday

https://9to5google.com/2018/01/23/what-is-google-fuchsia-os/

Fuchsia Friday has morphed a bit from a programmer's discussion site to a programmer training sort of structure.    Each post has a discussion below it, look there for the programmer folks seeking advice on whichever/whatever.

And yes, your device (Android, Chrome, Linux, Windows, ARM, Intel) can read and execute Fuchsia code items if you have the resources loaded.   And they tend to go get themselves as needed if you don't have them on your machine already.    

This is one of Fuchsia's neat tricks --- seamless resources.    Go get it, use it, and then to put it away so as to not jam up your hard drive.   bing, bada boom, done

Is it like Windows?  No -- nor is it overmuch like Linux either.   More like Android/Chrome and the web pages having a love child together.

Different, but phone/Chrome familiar (sorta).....



For those who are curious            (copy it up to your search bar)

Fuchsia Friday: Ledger picks up where you left off
Fuchsia Friday: Everything is an Entity
Fuchsia Friday: A system built for ‘Instant Apps’ on steroids
Fuchsia Friday: The structure of Google’s Lego-like modular OS, explained
Fuchsia Friday: How Flutter is paving the way for Fuchsia (and our first Fuchsia app!)
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Reply #18 - 03/20/18 at 05:39:29
 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12509/xilinx-announces-project-everest-fpga-so...




OK, so what is this ???

It is a signal that the buy-out wounding of Qualcomm and the complete non-starter recent performance of Intel has prompted some of the AUTOMOTIVE people to step up and offer their automotive standards based product to both the rackspace data center people and to the PC people as a replacement tech for Intel.

Xilinx is offering a set of automotive based stuff that does all the modern items, AI, etc. etc. etc. and this new Everest system supposedly can make up a PC competitor right out of the gate.   Or a rack processor.   Or whatever the heck you need it to be ...... (it can be reprogrammed on the fly after all).

Somewhat similar to ARM DynamIQ, actually, except it has a larger host of support chipsets available including heavy use of large FPGAs and larger AI blocks in addition to CPU cores and GPU sets.    But different enough not to be prone to Spectre, Meltdown and the current list of specious stuff from CTS ......

Well, so now you got multiple people actually offering new 7nm hardware setups now and Google offering a cross system OS under development now too --- both that do all the modern things (including concurrent self-maintenance) so I suspect that before too awful long somebody will put out an actual product that will likely fail to make Joe and Rita Six Pack happy for the first couple of times simply because it isn't Windows but may indeed eventually mature into a real replacement technology.    

Joe and Rita's kids and grandkids will understand it and "get with it" right away.

More likely ARM Holdings will look at the Xilinx offering and thoughtfully tune their DynamIQ stuff up a bit -- and vice versa as any new standard replacement technology needs agreed upon cross industry standards and a cross-pollinated system is stronger than the ideas of just one company.  

Your modern operating system must work across systems seamlessly if it wants to play in the phone/PC/Automotive/IoT world we are headed towards.

Google is actively seeking participating companies as they go about building Fuchsia, with the intent that it be a cooperative group-built standard from the very beginning.

Change she comes ......
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Re: AI phase-in rocks all computing worlds
Reply #19 - 03/20/18 at 14:51:27
 

https://liliputing.com/2018/03/windows-10-arm-reviews-hint-at-good-things-to-...



Long story short ---- all the intentional Win 10 S restrictions mentioned by Microsoft in the last months are real and the Snapdragon 835 simply isn't nearly strong enough to make an appealing Windows 10 system out of those limitations.    

Looks like there will never be a third machine, a Lenovo machine and the other two out of the promised three Snapdragon 835 machines are definite disappointments at this point in time.

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/asus-novago-tp370ql

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/17143554/microsoft-windows-snapdragon-alwa...

Theoretically Windows 10 on ARM is full-fledged Windows 10. But compatibility and performance issues mean that there are some things you can easily do on an Intel-powered computer that you wouldn’t do on a device like the Asus NovaGo.

That may change in the future. Upcoming ARM-based chips are likely to be faster, and Microsoft is likely to continue improving Windows on ARM performance… assuming enough people buy the first-generation devices to justify building second-generation models.

And right now it’s a little hard to imagine that this’ll happen.


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Snapdragon 845 doesn't look to be able to lift this load either.   Intel has cheaper chipsets that can do Win 10 (full) and Intel can slap a modem on these units easily (they build modems now for Apple after all).   Battery life is over 10 hours and that is good enough for Joe and Rita Sixpack as it does not require them to learn or do ANYTHING NEW .....

Win 10 on Snapdragon 835 is a Dead Horse, in other words .......
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Reply #20 - 03/22/18 at 09:09:40
 

https://liliputing.com/2018/03/samsung-unveils-exynos-9610-chip-for-high-end-...




The Samsung Exynos 9610 features:

Four 2.3 GHz ARM Cortex-A73 CPU cores
Four 1.6 GHz ARM Cortex-A53 CPU cores
ARM Mali-G72 graphics
High Speed 4G LTE (support for speeds up to 600Mbps down and 150 Mbps up)
802.11ac WiFi
Bluetooth 5.0

The chip also features an embedded ARM Cortex-M4F sensor hub to enable gesture recognition, context awareness, and always-on sensor features without waking the more power-hungry primary CPU cores.

Other features include support for 480 frames per second slow-motion video at 1080p resolution, 4K video encoding and decoding at up to 120 frames per second, and a neural network engine for face detection and other camera effects.



So, Samsung also lands on the "bump up the old cores with a modern AI boosted Mali G72 GPU plus various other adder blocks to do whatever else you want" bandwagon.    

This makes both Qualcomm and Samsung designing a "backed down" last generation big / little set up swinging a Mali G72 or other modern AI block graphics processor plus adder blocks to satisfy those customers who are simply not going to buy new 7nm lithography based cores for another year or more, but who still want to participate in the power increases that are coming from the new AI usage.

This "retooling the old stuff methodology" apparently is indeed a speedy, low cost fairly efficient way to make up a pretty good phone SoC these days.    The background idea is that last year's winner chipset is STILL A LOT MORE POWERFUL than what you really need, and when you bump it up with AI functions it really gets on up the power curve up towards the current crop of full on primo chipsets.

Understanding the cost/performance magic this trick can do, then understand that this trick is also going to be functionally slowing down the adoption of the latest styles of ARM DynamIQ processors (the Cortex A-75 bigs and the Cortex A-55 littles) to some degree.  

Until TSMC's 7nm lithography production is really truly up to full cost effective full on production rates the newest ARM cores will really struggle to price justify themselves against the current trick of adding AI blocks from the most modern Mali G72 set on to the two year older 10nm natural core designs that chip producers already own the licenses for.

Look to see ARM Holdings to do an interim re-design and a license cost downshift of the A75 & A55 cores if the Asian folks simply won't buy these newest designs simply because of lithography adoption issues and the relative high license cost issues that are involved .....  

ARM has had to do this before when lithography availability issues stalled them out for a year or so.    And this stall out is always aggravated by Apple's habit of locking up all the initial production lines on that critical first year out of the gate of each big lithography shift ......
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