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joelite44 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Older newbie Reply #30 - 01/25/18 at 11:08:19 My Savage has had variouse owners, and a rough life (everything in Mexico seems to have, rough roads, inexperienced users) I dont feel the need to go 100 + km although I will try once I hit a road as extense as I need it to be.
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Reply #31 - 01/25/18 at 14:16:13

Roy Shirley wrote on 01/24/18 at 17:03:53:

My new S-40 did not come with the backrest. Do I need to find the old style rear fender rails to attach one?

Great site, hope someone can help!

Yep, the side rails are different as are the bolt lengths. Hit up the Marketplace and look for some take-offs where someone built a bobber or otherwise didn't have use for them any longer. If you find 'em it can be a good opportunity to swap out the bolts for button head style, too. Can give you a little more room in the fender well in case you need it in the future (slightly larger tire etc).

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Reply #33 - 01/25/18 at 17:29:00

Joelite44, By all means check the cam chain tensioner ,it could cause some very bad damage if it comes apart, and your mileage is past the point where you should be checking. A stock bike should be able to do 128-136 Km (80-85 mph) if yours wont there are some simple carb mods that would help ( idle mix screw, white spacer mod ,jetting for alt. etc.) look in the- Technical Section.

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Reply #34 - 01/25/18 at 19:41:12

Joelite44, By all means check the cam chain tensioner ,it could cause some very bad damage if it comes apart, and your mileage is past the point where you should be checking

You can LAY your bike down on something soft (left side) , and you don't even have to drain the oil if ya don't want to. Check to see that the fuel tank is not very full ! Grin

Under that (Brake side) engine cover this is what you'll find except the stock plunger has only one hole , and the spring is "Way,Way" to strong. This is a picture of a chain with near 40,000 miles on the stock cam chain. The spring is only about 1/3 as strong as Suzuki had it and the extra hole extension is welded on. I took that over-strong spring out at an early age (4500'ish miles) so I never got the stretching that normally happens .

Versey makes them for us and his looks better than the rigging I did . Embarrassed

Form-a-gasket works just fine if ya know how to use it , so don't sweat it if ya tear th gasket ... but don't use "TOO" much gasket maker either .

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Reply #35 - 01/26/18 at 09:44:12

I did some research and told the guys at the shop to check this for me while they changed the oil. I dont trust them anymore so I should remove the oil and check it myself.

Thanks for your concerns, I sure need to check for the cam chain tensor and buy one either new or modde'd. It's definitely on my check list but you know how those check lists goes. Shocked

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Older newbie Reply #36 - 01/26/18 at 09:48:45 A new stock tensioner won't help you.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28887 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Older newbie Reply #37 - 01/26/18 at 09:55:57 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191167029
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joelite44 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Older newbie Reply #38 - 01/26/18 at 10:31:23 Ok so what is the price may I ask?
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joelite44 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Older newbie Reply #39 - 01/26/18 at 14:24:19 Thanks everyone for worrying about my cam chain tensor. Believe me it was the first thing I read about however I dont have the money to spare just right now, I will get to it. I need to -Drain oil -Buy gasket -remove silicone added by previouse user -adapt verslavy and she should be ready, once again thanks everyone for their concerns.
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Reply #40 - 01/26/18 at 14:49:28

If you just changed your oil, you can tip the bike to about a 45° angle and no oil will come out.
Take a jack stand, extend it up and stick under the upper rear shock mount nut as you tip it. Done it many times.

Use the clutch arm to pop the cover loose then examine which side the gasket is stuck to. Use pick and or a knife to gently pry the cover and gasket loose all the way around. Having the bike tipped over makes this easier. If you can get the cover off without breaking the gasket, save your new gasket for next time.

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joelite44 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Older newbie Reply #41 - 01/26/18 at 16:09:59 Yeah but what if silicone was used for a gasket on my motorcycle? Silicone residue will fall into the clutch box. Will I need to remove the silicone or just add more silicone to creat a gasket? This is the mess I am trying to avoid.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Older newbie Reply #42 - 01/26/18 at 16:33:36 Ahh the details that people share after asking for and getting advice. Dump the oil. Buy a gasket. Fix the problem. Following a moron as a mechanic sux. You have to undo the stupid. There are tiny and important oil passages in the gasket path.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5837 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Older newbie Reply #43 - 01/26/18 at 16:52:29 I always us Silicone , a soft brass brush on a battery drill takes it off easily. I put a thin layer on , wait 6-8 minutes , run the screws up just pass touching the two surfaces , wait 15 ish minutes , and tighten/torque --- never had a leak ! Silicone is Good
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