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Reply #45 - 02/03/18 at 10:07:52

Zx-14 , 40 years , of work in power plant ,that generated 250 megawatts of power ,may have caused me to pick up some knowledge along the way! working around voltages between 11,500 to 115,000 allows only 1 mistake, your last. I will not comment on your level of knowledge, but rather wish you luck in finding a 16 volt battery. Myself ,I would simply run a hotter sparkplug.

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Reply #46 - 02/03/18 at 11:15:56

batman wrote on 02/03/18 at 10:07:52:

Zx-14 , 40 years , of work in power plant ,that generated 250 megawatts of power ,may have caused me to pick up some knowledge along the way! working around voltages between 11,500 to 115,000 allows only 1 mistake, your last. I will not comment on your level of knowledge, but rather wish you luck in finding a 16 volt battery. Myself ,I would simply run a hotter sparkplug.

On motor that's fine but on nitrous you can't and do you know why ?

Found one

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Reply #47 - 02/03/18 at 11:20:52

NO! I don't really want to know ,but the battery you show lists as one of it features as being used in race vehicles using 16 volt systems . the Savage has a 12volt system ,and anything or 14 volt can damage the TCI, I f you choose to use this there is a good chance that you'll end up with no spark.Congrats! you found a 16 volt battery ,but you need to stop looking at pictures, and start reading the words.

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Reply #48 - 02/04/18 at 07:30:22

Well running a battery you can 't charge sounds as practical as all the other things you come up with to do to the bike . It seems funny that after all the grand things you planned to do ,you've ended up going the same tried and true route as many of the members have. So you're willing to listen to others ,just not me. I'm not an engineer of any kind ,but an average guy with hunger for knowledge , and so I read and learn. I don't understand why you go to a higher voltage, is it to get a hotter spark? It's not needed as the stock ignition system on the bike is strong enough to work as long as the fuel mix remains within the limits of combustion. The only change needed may be in spark timing. If warning you that increased voltage may harm or destroy the TCI is negative in your view ,then I think I will refrain from commenting on your build ,as it seems you have all the answers .

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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1452	Re: Charging system Reply #49 - 02/08/18 at 17:44:51 FWIW, I wrote to Ricks in NH who make all sorts of electrical goodies, including a high output system for the 350/360 Hondas. They replied that they can't make a higher output system for the Savage because there isn't enough room to add more windings. Those folks are pretty sharp.
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Reply #50 - 02/08/18 at 19:34:43

Armen wrote on 02/08/18 at 17:44:51:

FWIW, I wrote to Ricks in NH who make all sorts of electrical goodies, including a high output system for the 350/360 Hondas. They replied that they can't make a higher output system for the Savage because there isn't enough room to add more windings.
Those folks are pretty sharp.

Can they up the voltage regulator to put out 16 or 18 volts

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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1452	Re: Charging system Reply #51 - 02/09/18 at 03:08:52 Probably they could make one. But what is the point? The ignition and bulbs would be toast in no time.
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GT61 TURBO ZX14 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 230 Minnesota Gender:	Re: Charging system Reply #52 - 02/09/18 at 13:38:43 Armen wrote on 02/09/18 at 03:08:52: Probably they could make one. But what is the point? The ignition and bulbs would be toast in no time. Na they will be fine can you ask them or get me there number thanks
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Charging system Reply #53 - 02/09/18 at 22:24:04
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GT61 TURBO ZX14 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 230 Minnesota Gender:	Re: Charging system Reply #54 - 02/11/18 at 01:55:46 batman wrote on 02/09/18 at 22:24:04: Do you know how to full field the regulator so you get Max output out of the charging system
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Charging system Reply #55 - 02/11/18 at 08:25:38 GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 02/11/18 at 01:55:46: batman wrote on 02/09/18 at 22:24:04: Do you know how to full field the regulator so you get Max output out of the charging system We don't have alternators, no field coils just magnets, so they're generators. should be easy enough, just change the voltage on the zener diodes.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Charging system Reply #56 - 02/11/18 at 09:14:50 Turbo, Full field the regulator? The field has nothing to do with the regulator. the field can't be changed on the Savage unless you replace the magnets in the rotor with stronger ones, and that would tend to over heat the windings in the stator. Give it up, quit trying to make a diamond out of a piece of coal, it's not happening.
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