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Slide sticking
01/17/18 at 08:42:30
 
This is past frustrating.  Been having the same problem off and on for a couple of months progressing to on and on.
I'm down to cleaning the slide every night.
The slide will hard stick and limit my max speed on the flat to ~65.
Last weekend I rebuilt the old carb out of the 88 and put it in with the same problem.
Had a K&N in there for years and have changed that for paper (hi-flo)
When I rebuilt the 88 carb, I noticed the intake rubber ducky was filthy.
Last night I pulled the air filter and there was a build up of dirt on the far side under the breather port.  Sorta cleaned it.

Only thing left is to pull the airbox and pressure wash it.
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Re: Slide sticking
Reply #1 - 01/17/18 at 08:47:22
 
Have you opened up the oil drain tube for the airbox and drained out the goo?
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Reply #2 - 01/17/18 at 09:00:10
 
Yep, wasn't much there... and there is a plug.
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Re: Slide sticking
Reply #3 - 01/17/18 at 09:35:02
 
This may sound simple, but, if you are having the same problem with 2 different carbs check the fuel flow and throttle & cable & routing, Something may be hanging.
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Reply #4 - 01/17/18 at 10:04:57
 
I replaced my slide because the coating had worn off and was very sticky.  I wasn't cheap, but it made a noticeable difference.
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Re: Slide sticking
Reply #5 - 01/17/18 at 10:37:50
 
badwolf wrote on 01/17/18 at 09:35:02:
This may sound simple, but, if you are having the same problem with 2 different carbs check the fuel flow and throttle & cable & routing, Something may be hanging.

CV slide is vacuum activated, so I doubt it's cable related.
It acts like a stuck slide, sometimes a good bump will result in whoa nellie moment.
And removing the slide is difficult because it is... stuck.

On a positive note... I can pull and replace the carb in less than 30 minutes.   :'(
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Reply #6 - 01/17/18 at 11:10:33
 
Did you use the same needle on both slides? Maybe the needle is bent or out of round.
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Reply #7 - 01/17/18 at 12:12:41
 
I swear by OLDFELLER's air cleaner and have used it for years. the problem with the breather hose is it discharges between the air filter and the carb and at a level almost even with the carb opening .It may be worth a try to drill through the box ,an insert a short nipple to carry it beyond and maybe below the filter ,allowing the gook to drop out and only oil fumes to be sucked back threw the filter,( with a short hose and small filter of the type used when removing the air box-there's room) keeping the slide cleaner. Of's filter is loaded with veg oil ,I don't believe oil fumes would hamper it's operation. My air box has two drain positions ,one with a hose (the section between the filter and carb)and one with a small cap that could be swapped( to drain the section on the inlet side of the filter.)
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Reply #8 - 01/17/18 at 13:04:22
 
batman wrote on 01/17/18 at 12:12:41:
I swear by OLDFELLER's air cleaner and have used it for years.

I had the K&N before OF invented it or I would have.
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the problem with the breather hose is it discharges between the air filter and the carb and at a level almost even with the carb opening .It may be worth a try to drill through the box ,an insert a short nipple to carry it beyond and maybe below the filter ,allowing the gook to drop out and only oil fumes to be sucked back threw the filter,

Not a bad idea, with the right hose and a tight fitting hole, no nipple necessary.
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My air box has two drain positions ,one with a hose (the section between the filter and carb)and one with a small cap that could be swapped( to drain the section on the inlet side of the filter.)

I knew they had 2 drain ports, didn't know they were front and back.  Will check.
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Reply #9 - 01/17/18 at 14:02:31
 
Had to double check myself, yep ,one facing the rear of the bike drains that section.
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Reply #10 - 01/17/18 at 14:11:02
 
They do have two ports cast into the plastic air box - but only one is used as a drain....the other one is capped off at the factory and isn't used.

It is possible that the tube or port is blocked....and the air box does have a puddle of go inside - even though you have removed the plug and drained the tube.
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Re: Slide sticking
Reply #11 - 01/18/18 at 07:26:13
 
This may be objectionable to some here, but on every carb I have had that was a CV carb, I have faithfully used LUCAS gasoline additive (I buy it by the gallon from Summit Racing- lots cheaper!) as I use it in my auto and lawn mower.  It is used at a 400:1 ratio which is 3.2 oz per 10 gallons of gas so it lasts a long time.  

However, it has kept my carbs absolutely spotlessly clean - in all locations, AND it keeps all the moving parts lubricated.  Whenever I have taken them apart after I started using the gas additive, there was a slight slippery film on the slides and even up to the diaphragms.  I swear by it!  On the BMW's which have been notorious for having terrible BING carbs, after using the gas additive, I never ever had even one more problem with dirtiness or issues with slide failing to properly move.
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Re: Slide sticking
Reply #12 - 01/18/18 at 08:10:43
 
So, after a long night wrenching, cleaning the airbox, r&r all in the way of said airbox, cleaning the slide, day 1 has started off well.  The cagers are happily terrorized from the #1 lane.  We'll see how it goes.
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Reply #13 - 01/18/18 at 15:12:17
 
FWIW,
Stripping two stroke carbs -you know what they are don't you Smiley- I always found them to be in pristine condition, I think because of the petroil. I have used a tiny drop of oil in various 4 stroke bikes thinking it would help the carb. My reservation is that it might foul the cylinder to some extent? It seems like a good idea? Gas seems to me to be a poor lubricant.

What's the consensus? Undecided
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Reply #14 - 01/18/18 at 15:13:49
 
P.S. I have never liked CV carbs. :'(
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