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Reply #60 - 01/18/18 at 12:29:54
 
So I was one of the first to give input to Mr. Horsepower. Here's what I said (post #8):

"I don't believe that the LS650 motor is under stroked. In fact, it has evolved from a 400cc engine where they increased stroke and bore to achieve a capacity of 650cc. There is opportunity (as proven) to increase the bore and compression ratio. The stoke is a more involved change and may not yield results that justify the efforts.

But by all means, have at it and keep us informed. Be prepared to go through several engines in the process of testing."


Suzuki has a history of taking small displacement bikes and then boring and stroking them to achieve additional capacity. I've owned several. Typically when Suzuki punches out a motor, there isn't a lot to be gained in the stroke, but there usually more room left in the bore so cylinders can be rebuilt/refurbished.

At no time did I say it can't be done, just that it's probably not worth the time, money and effort. Experience has shown where the low hanging fruit is on these engines. Beyond that you're into cubic dollars. Lots of failure and retesting.

But I love testing. I work for a company that makes aerospace components and we do a lot of DO-160 / MIL-STD-810 testing here. Testing will always surprise you. You just never know how things will come apart.

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Reply #61 - 01/18/18 at 13:07:30
 
I'll never strip another washer to haul to the scrap yard. Just toss in a cinder block and run an extension cord.
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Reply #62 - 01/18/18 at 14:10:11
 
Mite put this on it lol  Grin jk
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Reply #63 - 01/18/18 at 14:23:38
 
GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/18/18 at 00:49:27:
I would run it on E85 or higher


Ha ha no E85 where I live mate. Best I can get it 98RON
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Reply #64 - 01/18/18 at 19:49:49
 
savagebob wrote on 01/18/18 at 14:23:38:
GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/18/18 at 00:49:27:
I would run it on E85 or higher


Ha ha no E85 where I live mate. Best I can get it 98RON





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Reply #65 - 01/18/18 at 22:44:27
 
Interesting, from previous posts I thought the USA was on AKI, we use RON in New Zealand, best we get is 98 RON unless you use 102 AVGAS.
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Reply #66 - 01/18/18 at 22:55:56
 
jcstokes wrote on 01/18/18 at 22:44:27:
Interesting, from previous posts I thought the USA was on AKI, we use RON in New Zealand, best we get is 98 RON unless you use 102 AVGAS.


Can you order gas like VPrace fuel
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Reply #67 - 01/20/18 at 01:24:30
 
GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/18/18 at 22:55:56:
jcstokes wrote on 01/18/18 at 22:44:27:
Interesting, from previous posts I thought the USA was on AKI, we use RON in New Zealand, best we get is 98 RON unless you use 102 AVGAS.


Can you order gas like VPrace fuel


Maybe but.. flag that sort of inconvenience
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Reply #68 - 01/20/18 at 01:35:51
 
You could do water injection or methanol injection I would  do 50/50 and have it come on at certain PSI  only and just run a Lil jug or run it on straight methanol lol
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Reply #69 - 01/20/18 at 01:43:21
 
You could do water injection or methanol injection I would  do 50/50 and have it come on at certain PSI  only and just run a Lil jug or run it on straight methanol lol
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Reply #70 - 01/20/18 at 01:44:26
 
VP race fuel
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Reply #71 - 01/20/18 at 01:45:05
 
Or this at a auto parts store
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Reply #72 - 01/20/18 at 01:48:14
 
I run this in the turbo bike https://vpracingfuels.com/product/air-race/
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Reply #73 - 01/20/18 at 01:50:52
 
This is all you would need to go to 15 to 20 psi https://vpracingfuels.com/product/vp-110/
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Reply #74 - 01/22/18 at 06:56:28
 
While using exotic fuels could work on a bike that you ride at the drag strip or on short local trips - but it really wouldn't work for a lot of use who need to stop once or twice for fuel on our local rides....and some of us go on multi day rides that may go into 3 different states in the same day.  Even here in the Cincinnati area E85 access is very limited.

For those of us who like to go riding on a regular basis - we need to be able to use regular or premium fuels that are available at all public stations - in all states.
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