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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #30 - 01/14/18 at 23:49:33 Well I guess I won't be following him to close ,He claims that he took a Busa from 194 hp to 660 hp ,3.4 times as much power as stock! I guess I know when I'm hearing pure B.S.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #31 - 01/15/18 at 00:39:50 S0 you had a unicycle ? doesn't sound good to me ,think I'll pass!
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #32 - 01/15/18 at 10:53:24 I just think we're two very different types of people ,I just want to ride and enjoy the world a pace the Savage can do and still remain reliable ,and you want to see it in a 200mph blur. so be it! Good Luck!
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Reply #33 - 01/15/18 at 11:15:33

I am a fan of the 50-60 mph fuzzy blur - as long as there are a lot of really tight corners......with a very short straight between them.

I am fine with a good running 40 HP Savage and I have done fairly simple mods to get in the ballpark - I don't need or want a 100 HP hand grenade motor.....and I really don't care to put the bike on a dyno to find out exactly how many HP it has. So far I have 10,000 trouble free miles with a Wiseco, cam, head port and carb swap....and a recently added lightened flywheel. On the back roads I ride I am very often scrubbing off tread in the corners and generally less than half throttle - I really don't need any more power to have a good time.

But........if you want to build a Savage engine engine to the nth degree and time/money is not an object - there is no reason you can't proceed toward your dream.

The only caution that I have is that the cylinder head on the Savage is a turd........the exhaust port is pathetic.......and you really would be better off starting with a DR650 engine and making it fit into a Savage frame. They also make a lot of performance parts for the DR650, and it can be made into a really peppy engine!

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: stroker crank Reply #34 - 01/15/18 at 11:27:44 P U N C T U A T I O N Please!
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #35 - 01/15/18 at 11:42:06 I agree with Dave, the DR650 would be a much better starting point as larger cams , pistons can be found the head is a much better design andI think it might be able to be stroked.Dr650(2005) compression 9.5:1, bore 100mm stroke 82mm It also has an external cam chain adjustment.
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Re: stroker crank
Reply #36 - 01/17/18 at 06:38:16

GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/15/18 at 11:32:02:

Gary_in_NJ wrote on 01/15/18 at 11:27:44:

P U N C T U A T I O N

Please!

Ain't going to happen for me I'm using this voice talk to text I suck at spelling got a learning disability in English.

Ah, I see. But can't you speak "period" or "comma" when appropriate? You are posting a lot and it would be considerate for the community.

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Re: stroker crank
Reply #37 - 01/17/18 at 07:15:32

This well written story applies to most of us Savage riders that are forum members for extended periods...we kinda' like our low HP rides. Some of us have boosted our bikes a bit - but not to excess. I enjoy the thrill of the well ridden curvy road - I am not a drag racer.

http://www.beginnerbikers.org/showthread.php?34648-In-Praise-of-35-Horses

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2776	Re: stroker crank Reply #38 - 01/17/18 at 10:08:07 Me too Dave, but that 580hp dyno run is still cool. My motor is stock, but I'd like to see what kind of HP GT61 has in mind. Not sure why everyone else is being so fuddy duddy about it.
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Reply #39 - 01/17/18 at 11:09:12

ohiomoto wrote on 01/17/18 at 10:08:07:
Me too Dave, but that 580hp dyno run is still cool. My motor is stock, but I'd like to see what kind of HP GT61 has in mind. Not sure why everyone else is being so fuddy duddy about it.

Because he came in too strong, assuming that we don't know crap. He has no idea what members on this board have done or are doing, but he's the expert and will lead us all to higher horsepower. Thank God he arrived just in time to save us. Personally, I can't wait to strap a JATO rocket on one of my bikes and bring it to a drag strip, because that's where the real horsepower lives.

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Re: stroker crank
Reply #40 - 01/17/18 at 15:36:58

THE little quote at the bottom of your post kind of covers that. What you've been saying doesn't really add up. The "kit " you want to put together will be more in parts and labor than the bike is worth.A blower or turbo will work to jam extra fuel in ,but the Savage has no way of dealing with the increase of temperature caused by increased combustion temperatures from higher combustion ratios, and no way to flow more exhaust due to the bad exhaust channel in the head .your like someone banging their head repeatedly against a steel wall expecting the wall to give way first ,only because you want it to. Boost on a stock motor should be limited to 3-5% without mods ,like lowering the CR and you propose to use a larger piston (97mm) which will do the opposite as will stroking the motor. I believe there's one tool missing from your tool box ,common sense .Dreams aren't real!

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: stroker crank Reply #41 - 01/17/18 at 17:01:15 GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/17/18 at 15:56:50: show me what you have accomplished and what you have built then we will talk . And there it is.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #42 - 01/17/18 at 17:16:22 I'm not the one trying to get 50 hp out of the Savage , You on the other hand ,have all these "friends" that can do wonderful things ,I wonder how many it took to build your ZX-11 for you . There is and old saying "showing is better than telling" and in this case I really won't believe it , until I see it!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: stroker crank Reply #43 - 01/17/18 at 17:34:03 Popular mechanics had a 3.5 hp Tecumseh making 35 hp when I was 16. I'm 63. How long it lasted wasn't part of the article.
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GT61 TURBO ZX14 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 230 Minnesota Gender:	Re: stroker crank Reply #44 - 01/17/18 at 17:36:22 Have a good one
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