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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #60 - 12/13/17 at 10:23:16
 
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batman wrote on 12/12/17 at 20:03:17:
It was a cheap shot! but the truth is in Texas with that heat I'd be running the new T-6 CK the breakdown temp being 350 for T-4 and 500 for the T-6  the small difference in price ,and the fact that you could go twice as long between oil changes with the T-6 makes it a bargain in my book.

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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #61 - 12/26/17 at 12:57:56
 
Well, the New Rotella T6 CK-4 oil is now showing up on all the local store shelves.

It is the new "NEW" T6, and it is back on our forum approved list for use in the Savage.  It has low Moly content, it has a very high ZDDP content and it really doesn't need to be supplemented with any Redline additive.

I may start using the new T6 in my bike and see if it is any different than the Rotella T that I have been using for the last 10,000 miles.
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #62 - 12/27/17 at 02:46:35
 
Hey Dave,
What weight of the new stuff are you using?
thanks
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Reply #63 - 12/27/17 at 04:49:18
 
Armen wrote on 12/27/17 at 02:46:35:
Hey Dave,
What weight of the new stuff are you using?
thanks


5W-40

I have it in my car now too!
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Reply #64 - 12/27/17 at 10:13:12
 
What make/year/model car ?
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Reply #65 - 12/27/17 at 10:39:59
 
Papa Bear wrote on 12/27/17 at 10:13:12:
What make/year/model car ?


2006 Pontiac Vibe

I have been using the Mobile T in it for years....it has 141,000 miles in it.  I suppose I should/could have run other oils in it - but between the motorcycles/tractor/car......I can just use 1 oil.
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #66 - 01/01/18 at 15:13:10
 
I need 2 oils.  Can you believe 0W/20? 2012 Civic, only available as syn!  Angry
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #67 - 01/10/18 at 04:08:06
 

hmmmmmm .......

The 2017 version of the Endless Oil War.    At least the main points were made correctly early on and the original poster got them all registered in his mind correctly before fleeing the mortar blasts and strafing machine gun fire.

We have to do this at least once a year to entertain the new crop of newbies that Santa leaves us each year at Christmas time.

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Reply #68 - 01/10/18 at 05:24:42
 
It's not a war -  it's an education.  Wink
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #69 - 01/10/18 at 13:08:22
 
GT61 TURBO ZX14 wrote on 01/10/18 at 11:26:51:
LOL but it seems like you guys are having good luck with how many miles are you getting out of the motors with Rotella oil


Youzguyz got 150,000 from his motor.............the only thing that was out of spec was the rings and the valve guides.  The cylinder, piston, cams and rocker went back into service.
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Reply #70 - 01/10/18 at 15:55:26
 
I watch the consumption increase.
Then change it, regardless of the miles.
Don't get comfortable with checking the oil every so often because it's not using it much. As the miles add up, consumption goes up.
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #71 - 01/11/18 at 05:35:30
 
I believe that it is the transmission in a shared sump wet clutch engine assembly that shears the oil ..  not the engine.
The transmission makes earlier oil changes necessary - not engine components.

I enjoy changing oil so I have no problem.
Makes me feel like I've done something constructive.  Cool
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Reply #72 - 01/11/18 at 05:50:51
 
"If you can get 3 or 4 quarts of motul put it on your fingers and see how sticky it is and how big of a pain in the butt it is to clean it off your hands it's got some of the best clinging agents I've ever seen it holds up to 752 horsepower in the ZX11 and over 660 horse out of my ZX14 plus they offered in a lot of different weights 10w40 10w60 20w50 we also run it in Top Fuel Motors."

Not exactly a scientific way of testing viscosity, or any other property of oil for that matter. Not sure I want to pour 3 or 4 quarts through my fingers either.

Bottom line, the Savage ISN'T a ZX14, a drag racer nor will it ever make more than 50 hp. It's a low tech engine that requires low tech oil.
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Re: Is it safe to use 10W30 engine oil instead 10W
Reply #73 - 01/11/18 at 08:04:40
 
"It's a low tech engine that requires low tech oil."

Huh???  why not improve on it by using high-tech oil?
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Reply #74 - 01/11/18 at 08:16:55
 
High tech oils don't have sufficient zddp.
Usually they have friction modifiers, not okay for the clutch.

The engine design is old. The oils available at the time were fine for the design. Modern oils will wreck it.
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