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bobert_FSO Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 419 Wichita KS Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #15 - 11/28/17 at 15:57:34 Verslagen mentions all the obvious that a newb might overlook. I'll admit that I have been bit by both the clutch switch and the kill switch on the left handlebar. Finding out that the kill switch is engaged is the most embarrassing. Edit. The kill switch is on the right handlebar!
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Reply #16 - 11/28/17 at 16:13:09

I removed the electrical tape from the harness. I did this in an effort to see if I could connect the wires anywhere. That is the only thing I did. I have not touched/disconnected/done anything otherwise. I will be re-taping it when it is fixed.

I just checked the VDC of the battery. It is in fact low (2.7V), so I will charge it overnight. While that will definitely solve a future problem, I still have to splice the battery cables to the other wiring to get things going. Any clues on where the actual connections are? Once I get that taken care of, I can re-tape everything and hit the road, finally.

verslagen, that's what I'm aiming for! Grin

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Reply #17 - 11/28/17 at 16:53:04

-The key was taken out before transport - Be aware that the key can be removed in two positions ,turned to the left (normal) but if you turned it to the right it turns on the rear brake light (as a parking light) but the key can still be removed. This could have killed the battery overnight, and the reason you have no power. Gary is right, charge the battery or jumpstart the bike from another vehicle (not running),before you over engineer the problem.

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DAldrich2516 YaBB Newbies Offline Motorcycle Apprentice Posts: 16 Connecticut Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #18 - 11/28/17 at 17:00:48 @Batman, well that's definitely good to know for the future. Thank you for the heads up!
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #19 - 11/28/17 at 17:09:01 IT's not like anyone here has ever done that Another thing you should know is that if you leave the key on without the bike running for a long time, you can burn up (melt?) the diodes in the TDI ignition box(cost to replace ,about $480).
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2625 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #20 - 11/28/17 at 17:35:23 Lets see if the battery holds a static charge. When you get it going after an overnight charge, check the charging system to rule that out.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #21 - 11/28/17 at 17:51:20 I sincerely hope that the previous owner didn't just charge the battery with a kaput charging system. :'(
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #22 - 11/28/17 at 17:53:50 It's So Easy to haul the battery to the parts store and have it charged and tested. Not knowing what the owner knows about things, it's the safe option, IMO.
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Reply #23 - 11/28/17 at 20:11:51

Your new so I should also run this by you, the starter motor is sealed ,so has no cooling. Extended use will overheat it and the magnets glued to the inside of the case will fall off ruining the starter.If the bike doesn't start in the first few rotations ,you should stop long enough to allow it to cool before trying it again. If the battery voltage falls to about 10 volts while running the starter you'll have no spark at the plug.

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DAldrich2516 YaBB Newbies Offline Motorcycle Apprentice Posts: 16 Connecticut Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #24 - 11/28/17 at 21:22:07 OK, I do appreciate all of the insight, but I'm just going to stick with charging the battery overnight (I have a small charger that is designed for this size) and then splicing the battery cables back where they need to go. Anything else that happens after that is why forums like this are made.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #25 - 11/29/17 at 06:28:04 Confused yet , it's ok to have a Glorious Failure sometimes ! I will offer you two hundred american dollars for the bike !
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DAldrich2516 YaBB Newbies Offline Motorcycle Apprentice Posts: 16 Connecticut Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #26 - 11/29/17 at 06:40:58 OK friends, so I charged it overnight and just checked it, it is all good at 12 VDC. Now that that is taken care of, I have to take care of the wiring. I will attempt it again today and write back regardless of the outcome. @Ruttly - good one.
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DAldrich2516 YaBB Newbies Offline Motorcycle Apprentice Posts: 16 Connecticut Gender:	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #27 - 11/29/17 at 08:34:01 Just so we are clear, this is what I have been referring to. I think it is cleared up by now, but I know there was some confusion earlier in the thread.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Need help with wiring for battery Reply #28 - 11/29/17 at 09:14:40 A Hot battery should be 12.5 volts. Static voltage matters, but the Under Load voltage is critical. If it's low it can spin the motor but not spark the plug. Check the battery voltage While the starter motor is working If it's not starting.
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Reply #29 - 11/29/17 at 09:57:53

From the pic above, those just look like pigtails the PO put on so as not to remove the battery when charging, but with the ends stripped and bare they could have shorted the battery if they touched the frame/each other during transport ,Not knowing the age of the battery/condition /damage ,it might be a good idea to buy a new one and start fresh.(I'd take those wires off and toss them)There are chargers that come with leads like these ,but they run together and end in a connector matching one coming from the charger ,this type of setup would be OK.

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