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08/28/17 at 04:47:57

good day all have a question regarding the S40 we have a 2014 Suzuki S40 with 6600 KMS that is currently down for repair with trans problems.it would not go into neutral at times and would stick in gear(no down or upshifting)it is sitting at a suzuki dealer they have found a bent shift fork an damaged shift collar.My question is what would cause this?I am assuming it happened before we bought it as my wife has only put 200 kms on it and is a new rider not hard on the bike.
she is very disappointed in this bike having sold a Honda rebel to buy a newer bike with less kms she thought she would be good for a few years with out issues
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: trans issues Reply #1 - 08/28/17 at 05:20:33 Someone stomped on the shifter or the parts inside were rejects. I've been here for about twelve years and seen all kindsa problems, and that's a new one.
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Reply #2 - 08/28/17 at 05:26:02

The Savage is not prone to transmission problems.

Some folks don't understand the motorcycle transmission, and if the bike doesn't want to go into first gear.....they stomp until it does. The solution really is a much kinder/gentler method - you either let the clutch out and pull the lever back in and shift while the gears are rolling to a stop - or you use your leg to roll the bike forward or back an inch.....this allows the "dogs" to get in alignment and shift easily (without stomping).

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Reply #3 - 08/28/17 at 05:26:10

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/28/17 at 05:20:33:

Someone stomped on the shifter or the parts inside were rejects. I've been here for about twelve years and seen all kindsa problems, and that's a new one.

I was kind of wondering the reject part theory as well I am considering contacting Suzuki regarding this issue
Momma is considering looking for a different bike now. hope she changes her mind once we get it back

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Reply #4 - 08/28/17 at 05:30:30

Dave wrote on 08/28/17 at 05:26:02:

The Savage is not prone to transmission problems.

Some folks don't understand the motorcycle transmission, and if the bike doesn't want to go into first gear.....they stomp until it does. The solution really is a much kinder/gentler method - you either let the clutch out and pull the lever back in and shift while the gears are rolling to a stop - or you use your leg to roll the bike forward or back an inch.....this allows the "dogs" to get in alignment and shift easily (without stomping).

thanks for reply we have been doing lots of reading on line since this has happened.Momma is a new rider and open to lots of help.
Also she is 62 years old an just took up riding a year an a half ago
I have 20 years riding myself and a lot of things i do with out thinking that is one of them

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2775	Re: trans issues Reply #5 - 08/28/17 at 05:34:21 Exactly what Dave said. Mine snapped one day. I could see the linkage had been bent for a while and it just gave out. I got a linkage for less than $10 and it's perfect. That said, it would take a lot of force to bend the shift fork and a damaged shift collar. I would ask to see those parts.
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Reply #6 - 08/28/17 at 05:37:54

ohiomoto wrote on 08/28/17 at 05:34:21:

Exactly what Dave said. Mine snapped one day. I could see the linkage had been bent for a while and it just gave out. I got a linkage for less than $10 and it's perfect.

That said, it would take a lot of force to bend the shift fork and a damaged shift collar. I would ask to see those parts.

they are saving me the parts
I know the owner of the shop and they so far have been very good to me

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Reply #7 - 08/28/17 at 06:42:59

I don't know of a shop that knows to use Rotella T 15/40 oil. And some people Have put the filter in backwards, usually an engine killer.
Have them check the shifter rod. I really don't know how anyone could stomp hard enough to bend stuff inside, because the rod will bend. And who can lift that hard?

A bent rod causes plenty of problems.
Start with that.

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: trans issues Reply #8 - 08/28/17 at 09:18:56 You want to screw anybody's bike up just walk over and stomp on the shifter. It can bugger-up the best of bikes and it's not the bike's fault. I would bet it happened in the last 200Km .....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: trans issues Reply #9 - 08/28/17 at 09:35:10 I doubt internal stuff is hurt.
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: trans issues Reply #10 - 08/28/17 at 10:04:19 mommas thumper wrote on 08/28/17 at 04:47:57: they have found a bent shift fork an damaged shift collar. I think there is internal damage
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: trans issues Reply #11 - 08/28/17 at 10:39:13 I saw that and hoped it was a They Think it's,,,,,,, And not a Took it apart already And Found,,,,, Sure never seen anything like that And I've jammed mine pretty hard.
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mommas thumper YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8	Re: trans issues Reply #12 - 08/28/17 at 10:44:46 thanks for all the replies so far I will check the rod myself when I go down to look at it in next few days still waiting for parts to come in and they have taken it apart and found these parts the fork is bent and the shift collar has some funny marks on it from hanging up so it is getting replaced for insurance sake
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: trans issues Reply #13 - 08/28/17 at 10:50:17 Did it get dropped? Shifter bent?
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mommas thumper YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8	Re: trans issues Reply #14 - 08/28/17 at 10:53:56 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/28/17 at 10:50:17: Did it get dropped? Shifter bent? no unless it was dropped before we got it i have been with her every time she is out on it an she has never dropped this or any other bike.
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