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Reply #15 - 09/28/17 at 19:14:58
 
Rossi once again elaborated on his proposed 10 Kilowatt ecat home heating device. He said it would weigh around 20 pounds and about one foot in length and diameter. Once again said it will be available next year and cost between $600 and $900 US. The devices are supposed to be made at a plant in the US. The devices would only be made in the US but shipped all over the world.


Ima be in that line with cash in hand.
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Reply #16 - 10/01/17 at 12:50:52
 

http://e-catworld.com/2017/09/30/czech-company-files-new-international-lenr-p...

A new patent application has been filed with the World Intellectual Patent Organization for “THE METHOD OF GENERATING THERMAL ENERGY, DEVICES OF ITS IMPLEMENTATION AND HEAT GENERATION SYSTEMS”.

The applicant is a company called Power Heat Energy S.R.O. based in Nusle in the Czech Republic. The text of the patent can be read here:

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/zh/detail.jsf?docId=WO2017152889&recNum=9...;
maxRec=65304499&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=%E5%85%AC%E5%B8%83%E6%97%A5%E9%99
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Unfortunately I am only able to find this referenced on a Chinese language portion of the so it’s not exactly clear who the inventor is — there are three Czech persons listed, and one Russian. It looks like the publication date was September 14, 2017.

A PDF version is here: https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000039286308/ETAPB/WO2
017152889.pdf

It’s a very detailed application; here are a few things that stood out to me. There seem to be a number of similarities with Rossi’s Fluid Heater Patent in terms of elements used.



Copycats and Patent Trolls ..... everywhere .....     This one is a group of experimenters who, like me356, are close but not quite there.    COP running 3-6 with reliability issues long term.    What they are doing with this stake in the sand patent is preserving their chance to finish it out later.

Rossi et al coming out of the gate with fully automated low cost production of a clearly superior product will win in the marketplace, but these guys acting to keep the gate open means that when somebody does learn Rossi's bag of tricks it can move out over the world unrestricted, forcing the lowering Rossi's initial high profit margins.

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Reply #17 - 10/15/17 at 08:12:05
 

http://e-catworld.com/2017/10/15/stirling-engines-now-extremely-important-to-...

Rossi is ticking off the blocks to real production of real products.

He has a handle on the long term 5 sigma requirement, production design of his reactors and his control system.   So now Rossi is working on some first FINAL APPLICATION engineering questions now.

He needs a source of a well designed Stirling engine, so he asked the peanut gallery for contact info for some good ones that he can just go buy one for cash, like right now.

Kockums in Sweden uses one in their submarines that is "world class" for efficiency and durability.   The same company builds smaller ones of the size range that Rossi needs ..... available for cash right now.

There are also a class of CO2 regenerator type turbines that fit his Rossi temperature range stuff, and a class of industrial refrigeration gas heating cooling heat pump units that can do regenerator type turbine work as part of its cycle as well.   All are sealed systems that use the heat with "high efficiency" and all of them have electrical generation all worked out already.

The Peanut Gallery is thinking Rossi is putting together an "electricity generator" for his November demo.

Rossi works with his partners and pulls knowledge as needed from his peanut gallery ....
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Reply #18 - 10/16/17 at 09:57:16
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=NlCOFSbv6lQ

MFMP Bob Greenyer presents the known state of LENR at the Order of Electrical Engineers Conference, seeking to transmit information and pick up some technical help with troublesome testing issues/equipment based items.

This is the only time I have ever seen "compare and contrast" between the LENR systems on a high technical level, complete with some real peanut gallery questions/suggestions that were both pertinent and helpful.
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Reply #19 - 11/03/17 at 15:39:21
 
The watchers seem to be all hung up on what Rossi must do to prove to them that it works.
The proof is in the pudin... Rossi needs to provide to developers a heater unit with certain power needs and output and walk away.

Let them fit it to a stirling engine.
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Reply #20 - 11/07/17 at 02:00:58
 

http://e-catworld.com/2017/11/07/rossi-announces-e-cat-qx-presentation-novemb...


Hola Paco !!!   It is at hand, two and a half weeks from now on Black Friday,  Nov 24th    Wink
no less.

There will be a live feed of the proceedings which I will post right here for those interested in watching the proceedings (either massive success or miserable doubtfulness depending on your individual moods).    I'll put up a poll, no less -- you can register your level of belief if you will.

What is hoped for is the reveal of the PARTNERS -- who they are and what resources they bring to the table.

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Reply #21 - 11/07/17 at 02:21:29
 
I'm more interested in your believing or not. You know more about the players and everything.
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Reply #22 - 11/07/17 at 03:49:35
 

By now Rossi knows if it is done yet or not.    Rossi knew by halfway through the last one megawatt 1 year test that he didn't have a reliable system, so he (Rossi) imposed the 5 sigma test requirement on the current system to see if it was really ready or not.

We need to know who the partners are ......
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Reply #23 - 11/17/17 at 07:43:58
 

Rossi's fren-enemies have accidentally "attacked" him and gotten Ecat World suspended by Google no less.    How?  by plastering hot links all over the internet leading to the demo.

http://www.ecat.com/

The demo will run Nov 24 at high noon.

Believe it or not I just violated the Google Terms of Service too.  But I doubt my reposting this link will result in Google instantly pulling the plug on SuzukiSavage.com for terms of ser ....





<<<< Notice of Violation of Terms of Service --- this site will be shut down pending a review of grievous violations of Terms of Service.   Broadly Posting or Disseminating false or misleading information intentionally is a violation of Google's TOS.
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Reply #24 - 11/17/17 at 10:53:39
 
Dangitt OF,Now look what you've done..
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Reply #25 - 11/17/17 at 13:20:40
 

http://e-catworld.com/2017/11/15/the-invisible-ecw-on-google/


  ......  apparently some folks have accused Rossi's E-Cat.com of all sorts of evil internet things, and Frank Ackland and the E-Cat World folks got sucked into it by simple name association.

Conspiracy theories, anybody ?????

Think maybe somebody wants Rossi shut down right before his demo goes off, huh ???


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Rossi can generate more interest and more "buzz" and get more active oversight than anybody else without even trying ......
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Reply #26 - 11/17/17 at 13:47:08
 
I'm surprised he's still alive.
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Reply #27 - 11/21/17 at 18:38:37
 

Google is undergoing their review process, but says the review process will take longer than the time that remains before the demo takes place.

All parties understand that this internet side-swipe thing was done intentionally, but the complaining parties are sticking by their complaints, so Google says the embargo must remain in place until their review is completed.

Interesting, though, that a new domain name that "fits well" was supplied by somebody, so now everybody is being told to GO HERE instead to get their demo access at noon on Friday the 24th.

http://www.ecatworld.org/


The demo will also be on YouTube, but the exact location isn't known until it is actually posted, so tune into http://www.ecatworld.org/ or else just catch a news feed somewhere as it will be on Google Cards, Twitter, etc. etc.

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Reply #28 - 11/24/17 at 13:41:15
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=lkj-7whwpUk

it is a YouTube, click on it and go to YouTube to watch it


Rossi has done his demo now, the entire demo arrangement would fit into two standard suitcases, gauging, plastic buckets and all included.

Rossi's need for IP secrecy has rendered his COP calculations somewhat time based reduced which is "debateable" but his friends calculate his one hour long demo cope for today at 550 COP and his most critical frienemies still come up with a 330 COP off the exact same input / output numbers.   The critics/frenemies don't allow the cut on vs the cut off time distinction, so they come up with reduced numbers for the entire demo.   330 COP is still huge compared to previous e-cat variants, over a dozen times better ..... so just roll on past it, understanding this next statement very clearly.

IF the demo had run for days and days, these COP numbers would have been ridiculously much higher (over a thousand) just realize that and roll on about all the minor measurement disagreements, etc. etc.

He chain starts each of the three reactors in his demo pack (22.3 watts steady real output per reactor) off of wall socket power using a very short burst of 50 watts of warm up power, making up a very brief section/duration of start up power usage which he then replaced with a 9volt maintenance battery during the hour long run portion (a 9 volt Duracell to be exact) which then supplied reactor control power for the rest of the demo period.   Cranking up E-Cat reactors is very similar to starting up a mercury vapor bulb or a fluorescent light tube, a momentary electrical buzz is about it, then the light comes on.

Both sets of people factored in the initial start up power surge in their calculations, but they did it differently because of data calculation bias and the "intent differences" between the two groups.

FACT:   Rossi ignored the DC output portion (10% of his reactor's natural output is DC voltage at a mild current level) that could be put to work recharging a main storage battery that could then drive the whole system for restarts from that point forward in time for free.  

But trying to say he has an infinitely large COP (which would be true once the system was up and running on a recharging basis) would not help the skeptics accept the E-Cat X as real at this early point of things.   Letting them see all the power draws unbuffered helps them to understand much much better at this early stage of things ......

DURATION:   Rossi's 5 sigma testing over the last year was run at full power and he has verified over a year of full power usage on a single charge of powder.

Rossi states that building in "extra capacity" (ie more powder per reactor and a few extra reactor counts per installation) that are part of every design he does is a good thing, and in some some proposed uses such as winter time cabin heaters in electric cars which would only use about a 10% duty cycle then a standard count reactor core set (with the standard amount of spare cores) would last on the order of 10 years which is the standard design life time of the electric car itself ......

Wink      reactors are cheap, a few spare reactors per set up is simply good business

Rossi had all his historical Tester Groups from all previous iterations all present at the demo (so he could thank and honor them) along with lots of nameless folk from various Scandinavian Universities and some potential Industrial Style heat and baking ovens mgfs and other large consumers of heat energy were present just to observe the demo set.    These previous group people also were free to discuss all previous demos and were frank about what they could have done better about those old demos.  Open and honest was the general theme about all the past stuff, which made the current "IP restrictions" that exist on the new stuff go down better with the critics.

Rossi needs to park some one year trial sets out in the real world in some very secure sites that can keep all the busy fingers out of his proprietary initial installations .....  

Rossi needs to produce a simple industrial heat generating product or three with completely tuned and finalized control systems and run it for a few years and build up a known track history of performance.



ABB is now stated / confirmed as Rossi's automation and electronics controls pardner.   Hydrofusion and Sifferkoll and the existing crew of E-Cat distributors in the various countries were all available on internet during the discussion period afterwards.
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Reply #29 - 11/24/17 at 20:36:42
 
I missed Microsoft, and Bitcoin, I don't wanna miss the ground floor on this.
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