This is a new generic thread that I will use to put in the new bits and pieces as they happen in the Low Energy Nuclear Reaction saga.

Let's start with some new info on what is actually happening in LENR, it isn't fission and it isn't fusion (in the traditional H bomb sense).   It is a version of lattice assisted TRANSFORMATION that results in energy released as light, or heat, or electricity.

http://e-catworld.com/2017/08/25/transmutation-confirmed-new-mfmp-video-nova-...

This one is from an arc reactor, similar to Mills work, edging over a bit towards Rossi's work.   What it shows is technical proof (documented from MFMP) that elemental transformation is occurring during LENR.  

What is new is that it was done using CARBON, simple old cheap as wood CARBON.

This opens up a new approach path using another very common element, but it isn't really as good as a nickel matrix.  Nickel can sit around in a low pressure hydrogen gas bath for months while Carbon has to be vacuum shielded from atmospheric oxygen or it combusts.

 

Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

He's the guy that originally discovered this stuff -- long dead now.   The brit accent guy in all the "debunking" You Tubes is one of this group of FOSS guys, including the ones that run the E-Cat World web site.

Justin, the Carbon based stuff couldn't ever see any air up at operating temps or it would burn like coal does.    Carbon is good for proving out transformations as you can readily buy pure carbon, then you can measure what's in the little nodules that form on a spectograph and see what the transformational products really are.    Carbon arc light electrode stuff is made from a very pure very hard carbon normally.  Current Arc lights are filled with a noble gas normally, so subbing in some low pressure hydrogen is easy enough to do.    The resulting rig can quickly test combinations of stuff to see which ones transform quicker and "more".  It is good for test evaluations, not for making power since an arc blast isn't very efficient at all.

The nickel matrix stuff really doesn't care so much about a little air getting in,  it wouldn't burn like a chunk of coal does.    A nickel in your pocket doesn't rust and it stays shiny after all.

Hydrogen gas is quite mobile, which is why Rossi uses a solid source (lithium hydroxide) that releases the very small amount of hydrogen gas that is needed inside the sealed capsule each time the thing gets up to temperature.   It also melts and coats the nickel grains which provides the lithium and the hydrogen at the point of use.    Lithium is one of the transformation adder elements, with the lithium and the nickel going up in isotopic weight by eating hydrogen bits and pieces and then turning the starter element into a smattering of other heavier elements eventually.      -- if someone ran it hot enough and long enough without melting it down that is --


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http://e-catworld.com/2017/08/28/rossi-e-cat-qx-control-system-final-resolvin...

ROSSI SEZ:  Rossi has found his controls partner and now has a finalized "tuned for production design" which hopefully he will be displaying at his October demo.

All of the various groups should be polishing up finalized stuff that you possibly could GO BUY with simple, plain old American dollars fairly soon .....  after UL (or equivalent) approvals of course.

Since the methods used are all different we should see at least a Edison, a Westinghouse and a couple of other early starters and there should be competition of ideas and price.

Indian and Chinese and Russian guys are working on their own designs as well, but since nobody here reads those languages news from them only come out in English in sporadic spurts when somebody translates it.

Update on the "slow debunking" being done by MFMP by attempting to replicate each of the various groups works in progress.

ECCO (Sudas from India) was deemed worth another (3rd) trip by the MFMP guys, but Sudas's adult son suddenly decided he wasn't going to allow his aging father to give away a valuable technology so he took and hid his daddy's reactor somewhere far far away from the lab.

(ain't that the shites --- turns out sonny boy was in cahoots with the foreclosing banker that was acting so stubborn last trip as well)

MFMP says the ECCO reactor's ash has all the trace elements in the ash that prove that it worked at some point in time, but since the man's children got all greedy and snatchy about the whole thing MFMP is giving up on trying to work with this group of very very India Indians.

Rather than make any more trips back & forth to India, MFMP will disperse the considerable knowledge gained by the 3 trips done so far and after sonny boy gets his head out of his posterior perhaps Sudas can recover his reactor and continue his with work somewhere else, backed by someone else.   However sonny boy has an issue in that his Daddy has already put ECCO very firmly into the public domain very publically, so sonny boy gets no patents granted anywhere ......   likely he has simply sold the reactor to the Russians or to the Chinese and it is long gone by now.

Greed is popping up all over the projects that are actually working, as BILLIONS of dollars are likely at stake in these very few really working projects.


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Rossi SEZ he has already private demo'd his E-CatX multi reactor plant seeking more funds to build a series of reactor plants and Rossi SEZ he already has at least one financial backer (or backers) and has already sold 5 industrial reactor placements on the "we will sell you the steam but we will hold on to our reactors" program approach similar to what they used before in Doral.    

These 5 prototype E-CatX industrial reactors are being built in Florida as we speak and they are each BIGGER than a Megawatt each.

Rossi is rolling along fairly well now and believe it or not Industrial Heat has now had the gall to put out a troll patent that they claim covers Rossi's newest designed reactors.    This is in direct contempt of the court resolution that was just reached months ago which gives you an idea that folks really are willing to risk going to jail to stake out just a sliver of what is coming down the pike.  

Industrial espionage at its finest, don't cha you know ......

You can call it  LENR or E-Cat energy (that actually means energy catalyzer energy) which describes the process used.

Countries with LENR groups that are moving towards commercialization

America (3). Italy(2), Sweden (2), Japan, India, China, Russia.


Top three countries for real progress are America, Sweden and Italy.   Look to see tightly controlled but very real Industrial / Commercial products announced for "test installations" in these countries sometimes in 2018.

Example:   Rossi puts out a public demo, finishes up his 5 sigma test run and begins installing his first sets of "retained hardware" installations at selected partner sites.

Think of them as "retained prototype trials" and you will have it well in mind.


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We have new patent activity from the aerospace big boys, turns out that gov. black funding WAS building some LENR this and that devices all along.    Mitsubishi in Japan is also dropping new patents for some Rossi "sorta look-a-likes".


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The reactionless space drive has been brought out of the closet by China -- it is real and it is in space doing "altitude maintenance" duties on a few long term satellites as we speak.   NASA and DARPA are silent at this time.


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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/business/dealbook/general-electric-abb.htm...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/09/25/swiss-abb-buy-unit-general-el...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/abb-ceo-spiesshofer-is-confident-about-deal-w...



ABB just bought the industrial side of General Electric, manufacturing plants, distribution system and all.  Now ABB has what they need to do some major things in the USA.

GENEVA — Swiss robotics and industrial machinery maker ABB is buying the electrification services unit of U.S. conglomerate General Electric in a deal valued at $2.6 billion, boosting its presence in its crucial North American market.

The deal between ABB, which provides high-tech equipment for the transport, utility and infrastructure industries, and GE is expected to close in the first half of next year.

http://e-catworld.com/2017/09/17/rossi-e-cat-good-enough-for-electricity-gene...

Read down in the comments, they make mention a medium/small liquid c02 based turbine plant (not steam) that could drop into a sub station to be backup power in case of disaster/hurricane/tornado.   Or be wheeled up as a 18 wheeler delivered mobile unit.    

This could look a whole lot like a train engine (trains now run off of electricity generated by the engines out in front of the train -- actually they can be put at the end or the middle of the train as well since the actual motors are in the wheel assemblies of the "driver cars" which are put in line according to where the generator and drive wheels are needed to be to get the long line of stuff going uphill most efficiently.

This fits Rossi stuff to a "T" and also falls totally in line with the very recent ABB purchase of GE Power Transmission Systems.

Another gas that could do this duty is the heavy duty petrocarbon refrigeration gases that have replaced R22 industry wide.   This gas if heated up enough could spin a small turbine generating electrical power and then the waste gas inside the sealed system could either cool or heat a transfer liquid to make a "no net cost" refrigeration/heating system which would work somewhat akin to a heat pump.  

Can you see the applications in large buildings and industrial settings?   Free power, plus heating or cooling depending on the season.




We are past the experimental development of the idea of LENR now, we are into the industrial development of LENR as an energy technology.   LENR is real now, and is undergoing industrial development.

LENR faces its major competition from solar, with China being the leading producer of solar cells.   Tesla is the company whose ideas encompass "the other alternative" to Rossi and his LENR reactors.

If you wanted to invest some LENR dollars, ABB is the place to put some funds as they will reap whatever first wave dollars are generated in America, Sweden and Europe as they are positioning themselves as the primo LENR energy leader.

ABB is a company with the resources to pay out 2.6 Billion dollars to simply go BUY General Electric and gain the maintenance rights for our current electrical infrastructure.   ABB also made the existing prototype robotic line that builds the little ECat cells and their controls division apparently built Rossi's newest control system.

Lots of secrecy is still surrounding Rossi's bigger than 1 megawatt generators which have been built and are undergoing trials for the next several years.  

Trust that the next generation of ECat power stations past this one will be built just as quickly and tested out with similar levels of secrecy.   Since the tests run for so long, there will be several generations in test and in use until the tech finally matures in about 10 years.

ABB robotics lines can kick out what is needed for such trial units VERY QUICKLY .....  also expect Rossi to stop talking as much as he did in the past as his new business partner(s) are injured fiscally if he lets any cats out of any bags.  

This will be hard for Rossi, but I think he can do it.

Tesla and ABB are beginning to feel like the Westinghouse and General Electric of this upcoming LENR wave with our good old buddies Cherokee/Industrial Heat becoming the resident patent troll sitting off to the side sniping at the others.

Rossi is talking very very little about the ongoing demos that are taking place as we speak, with some type of show and tell that is taking place PRIVATELY and secretly under nondisclosure agreements, not being done publically at all.   He isn't talking at all about the first test units, where they are located, etc.

I doubt severely Rossi is the sales person for these demos, as ABB/GE has an entire sales group to do that, one that speaks English well and has a untarnished background and image.

http://e-catworld.com/2017/09/27/lenr-electric-hybrid-locomotives/

http://coldfusion3.com/blog/rossi-working-with-largest-electronics-company-in...

People are following up on these pathways as where there is smoke there may be NEW FIRE .....





Rossi once again elaborated on his proposed 10 Kilowatt ecat home heating device. He said it would weigh around 20 pounds and about one foot in length and diameter. Once again said it will be available next year and cost between $600 and $900 US. The devices are supposed to be made at a plant in the US. The devices would only be made in the US but shipped all over the world.

Rossi also stated that he will publish his “theory” on which ecat is based next fall. He didn’t say where but he also claimed it will take five years to patent ecat because of legal difficulties.

Siemens is a multinational conglomerate that makes everything from steam irons to electric trains. Siemens headquarters are in Munich, Germany, and it’s been around in one form or another since 1847. It currently employees 360,000 people in 190 countries and had revenues of $190 billion US (142 billion Euros) in 2011. If Rossi could get onboard with it he would have the resources he needs to complete his work.