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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Top speed observations Reply #30 - 07/28/17 at 19:38:44 A leak down compression test is what needs to be done to that bike.
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Reply #31 - 07/28/17 at 19:46:33

Im not sure what was done entirely. I needed anything related to pulley and bearing noise to be replaced, that's all I asked them to do.

I never went there and talked to them myself so I can't say for sure what they did. I might get it looked at, I might scrap it and just focus on my other ones.

The original point was that I incidentally have two other bikes that don't go 80-90 as I have been told is normal. I found that interesting.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Top speed observations Reply #32 - 07/28/17 at 20:32:41 If you're gonna scrap it, I'll come get and tell what's wrong with it. going to OK in september.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Top speed observations Reply #33 - 07/29/17 at 00:48:16 Gary_in_NJ wrote on 07/28/17 at 19:38:44: A leak down compression test is what needs to be done to that bike. Why?
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Reply #34 - 07/29/17 at 03:58:45

Speed tests on bikes when you don't know what size jets or if the spacer mod has been done ,and then bitching because the bike won't do the stock rated speed with stock/altered, exhaust systems doesn't really look like it would mean anything,really what's the point.Tune the bikes carbs to the exhausts first then test the results.Even a Savage with low compression should be able to do 70-80.You'll notice that the bike with stock exhaust is the only bike that broke 70 ,probably with stock (lean ) carb jetting,and what state of tune?

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Reply #35 - 07/29/17 at 04:45:53

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/29/17 at 00:48:16:
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 07/28/17 at 19:38:44:
A leak down compression test is what needs to be done to that bike.

Why?

Because an engine that can only make 4,000 rpm in top gear isn't making full power. It could be due to worn rings or blow by at the valves. A leak down test will point to the cause.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Top speed observations Reply #36 - 07/29/17 at 06:52:18 Wouldn't step one be see if the slide is going all the way up? Then, because I don't have the stuff for a test, I'd look at the valves, Ohhh, Snap,, we've seen an engine crap out, was stored a long time, started, and the oil was gone in the jug, dang,, Well, the leak down just might be step one..
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Reply #37 - 07/29/17 at 09:15:33

batman wrote on 07/29/17 at 03:58:45:

Speed tests on bikes when you don't know what size jets or if the spacer mod has been done ,and then bitching because the bike won't do the stock rated speed with stock/altered, exhaust systems doesn't really look like it would mean anything,really what's the point.Tune the bikes carbs to the exhausts first then test the results.Even a Savage with low compression should be able to do 70-80.You'll notice that the bike with stock exhaust is the only bike that broke 70 ,probably with stock (lean ) carb jetting,and what state of tune?

"Bitching" and "Interesting" are two totally different things.

I haven't complained once, these are observations that I find interesting. I'm not emotionally invested in motorcycle speeds enough to complain about them.

I found it interesting (not disturbing) that even the stock bike did not do 80-90 when I was informed that stock bikes would.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Top speed observations Reply #38 - 07/29/17 at 10:21:51 A stock bike with somewhat boogered jets, sticky slide, too tight belt, won't run to capacity.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Top speed observations Reply #39 - 07/29/17 at 17:00:23 Do keep in mind that while a Savage owner may see 80-90 mph on their speedo, there is about a 5-10% error in the OEM speedo so the actual speed will be close to what you got on the stock bike with the GPS (mid 70's to mid 80's).
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Top speed observations Reply #40 - 07/29/17 at 17:18:41 about a 5-10% error in the OEM speedo so the Stock tire, yeah,, But the Dunlop 140/90 is enough taller to compensate.
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Reply #41 - 07/30/17 at 17:17:48

The 140/90/15 is 4.6 % bigger than stock and takes care of most of the speedo error.the bike is the sum of all it's parts,if Eegore ,had gone through the bike to make sure it was stock and in good running condition,it is after all 22yrs old,(95),it would have been better.The fact that my 95 , stock except for a Dyna muffler does 88-90 any day,leaves me to conclude that they haven't received proper care.Anyone finding the results" interesting" must be easily amused .A little research would show that the stock bike is rated for 86-87 mph.

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Re: Top speed observations
Reply #42 - 07/31/17 at 14:11:00

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/29/17 at 06:52:18:

Wouldn't step one be see if the slide is going all the way up?

Then, because I don't have the stuff for a test, I'd look at the valves,
Ohhh, Snap,, we've seen an engine crap out, was stored a long time, started, and the oil was gone in the jug, dang,,

Well, the leak down just might be step one..

I think you jinxed my bike.
Friday going home, the slide stuck hard, made it to 65 then a little gremlin popped up on the speedo and said you shall not pass in a little squeaky voice.
Took it apart Saturday night after the mosquitoes quit sizzling on the window pane.
The slide was stuck hard and it took a little tug to get it out.
Nothing wrong with the slide but the body had scratches.
I had a little polishing wheel for the dremel, that and a little mothers and those scratches were gone.
I duct taped the gremlin to the window pane... buhaha. Smiley

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Top speed observations Reply #43 - 07/31/17 at 17:34:51 Dadgummitt,, now I feel bad. I Do! No, really, I just feel Awful.. How does stuff like that even Happen? How could the carb body get roughed up?
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