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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Here is obstruction..... 06/27/17 at 10:28:07 Look at how a bipartisan vote demanded the information into this, yet, Obama used an executive order to circumvent the truth into the matter. Imagine if Trump does this with his problems..... I don't blame the botheads for hiding, you can't defend this stuff http://dailysignal.com/2017/06/26/fast-and-furious-whistleblower-says-he-beca...
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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: Here is obstruction..... Reply #1 - 06/27/17 at 10:57:00 "Fast and Furious" originated during the Bush administration. As I understand it, several former senior DOJ officials have invoked the 5th Amendment regarding this "investigation". Also that one of the weapons "misplaced" during this fiasco was used in a Paris terrorist attack.
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Reply #2 - 06/27/17 at 11:25:35

old.indian wrote on 06/27/17 at 10:57:00:

"Fast and Furious" originated during the Bush administration. As I understand it, several former senior DOJ officials have invoked the 5th Amendment regarding this "investigation". Also that one of the weapons "misplaced" during this fiasco was used in a Paris terrorist attack.

Is that part of Trumps swamp ?

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Reply #3 - 06/27/17 at 11:58:13

'Fast and Furious' originated Oct 2009 under Obama.
Obama claimed it started under Bush43 it in a speech given to a Latino group in 2012.

There was a vaguely similar program under Bush43.
It ran 2 years 2006-7 and was also was flawed, so was shut down.

Two different programs. Bush's shut down, Obama's started up 2 years later.
Obama didn't outright lie although he did bend the truth, significantly.

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Reply #4 - 06/27/17 at 17:22:28

FL Savage wrote on 06/27/17 at 11:58:13:

'Fast and Furious' originated Oct 2009 under Obama.
Obama claimed it started under Bush43 it in a speech given to a Latino group in 2012.
There was a vaguely similar program under Bush43.
It ran 2 years 2006-7 and was also was flawed, so was shut down.
Two different programs. Bush's shut down, Obama's started up 2 years later.
Obama didn't outright lie although he did bend the truth, significantly.

And as P.H. would say.
‘The Rest, of the Story”

‘Wide Receiver’, under Buch, 06-07, fails.
He shut it down. It was a, Ultra, ’Tracking’ of Illegal guns, from, Illegal Dealers.
“…There was a vaguely similar program under Bush43….”
Key Word here,
VAGUELY !

Obama’s ‘Fast & Furious’, 09-11, Still failed.
Difference, he Kept it GOING.
AND, Huge DIFFERENCE, He, & Holder,
THREATENED LEGAL, Dealers, to
NOT, to Abide by, the current BATFE Laws.

He & Holder, TOLD THEM
Threatened Them,
to allow, IL-Legal Sales.

Only After a B.P Agent got shot and killed, did the real heat come on.
But Obama, ‘Protected’, Holder.

"...Obama didn't outright lie although he did bend the truth, significantly..."
Oh, and I Disagree.

Obama & Holder, TOTALLY, LIED.
Just that their, 'Kiss & Lick', buddies, helped them, C.Y.A.

Knia like, ‘Ruby Ridge’, Very few knew about that,
BEFORE, ‘Waco’. then the R.R. info came out.

Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Reply #5 - 06/27/17 at 17:31:37

The program didn't fail. It was impossible to possibly follow the weapons. There were no hidden transmitters to follow.
How many times have I shown that OUR banks Make Huge profits Laundering cartel drug money? Not EVERY cartel Wants to Invest in American banks and the stock market. The ones that do get protection and weapons.

You explain WHY anyone believed they could track weapons in Mexico once they had been handed over to the mules that would deliver them to the cartel..
Yeah, it's OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE.
You've been fed a cover story that is so lame it should be a never ending source of embarrassment for buying into it for more than a few minutes.

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