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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	I wish she would come in here 06/15/17 at 09:14:53 http://www.weeklystandard.com/camille-paglia-on-trump-democrats-transgenderis... Imagine an Intellectually Honest Atheist/democrat.. Yeah, my head nearly exploded.. I hope the Trump haters read it. Everyone could get something from it. And WooHoo, a piece of a speech that I certainly didn't hear about..
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Reply #1 - 06/15/17 at 09:31:32

Fantastic article!

Great excerpt from it:

"But today's liberalism has become grotesquely mechanistic and authoritarian: It's all about reducing individuals to a group identity, defining that group in permanent victim terms, and denying others their democratic right to challenge that group and its ideology. "

You could easily replace the word "liberalism" with "conservatism".

I think she's wrong on climate change and she gives tweety too much credit on that speech (probably not written by him, let's be real). But overall - well stated.

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Reply #2 - 06/15/17 at 09:40:24

I wonder who did write it. It's certainly along the lines of what he understands. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a big hand in it or wrote it.
Of course you think she's wrong on climate. But you don't have a single Be Afraid prediction that we have been told was coming soon for the last twenty years to support your Beliefs. You have claims of coming calamities by Scientists, who are, to date, Wrong.
I'm sure you'll be assembling a comprehensive list of predictions that came true.

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Reply #3 - 06/15/17 at 09:52:15

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/17 at 09:40:24:

I wonder who did write it. It's certainly along the lines of what he understands. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a big hand in it or wrote it.

I don't think so. I hate to break it to you, but our president is not a great businessman. He was gifted millions - and did no better than a basic mutual fund. All his casinos - bankrupt. Many of his properties - sold at a loss, etc. The speech was (I think) written by a conservative think tank with a focus on business and massive deregulation.

Of course you think she's wrong on climate. But you don't have a single Be Afraid prediction that we have been told was coming soon for the last twenty years to support your Beliefs. You have claims of coming calamities by Scientists, who are, to date, Wrong.
I'm sure you'll be assembling a comprehensive list of predictions that came true.

I look at climate change this way (since I'm not a scientist) - how could 7 billion people NOT have an effect on climate?

Further, ask yourself - who's opposing it? Corporations and conservatives. Gee... I wonder why? How many scientists can you name that are billionaires - or even multi-millionaires? What's to gain from reducing carbon emissions? What's to lose?

From a political point of view - climate change regulation is no different than net neutrality. Look at the ones opposing it and ask yourself "why?".

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Reply #4 - 06/15/17 at 10:14:11

I never said, nor has any honest person suggested that people have had no effect.

Now, can all of you try to remember that?
I am fukking TIRED of saying it.
Who ended the ice ages?
You and your car?
The polar caps on mars were diminishing as our climate initially warmed. Gee, is it POSSIBLE that great big light in the sky is not as steady in its output as a lightbulb?
Why did the FOUNDER of the weather channel walk away?
Plenty of climate scientists have said it is bullshit.

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Reply #5 - 06/15/17 at 10:19:35

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/17 at 10:14:11:

I never said, nor has any honest person suggested that people have had no effect.

Fine - then why not try to limit our carbon output? Hey, we might just start a new industry in clean power!

Now, can all of you try to remember that?
I am fukking TIRED of saying it.
Who ended the ice ages?
You and your car?
The polar caps on mars were diminishing as our climate initially warmed. Gee, is it POSSIBLE that great big light in the sky is not as steady in its output as a lightbulb?

The Sun hasn't changed in billions on years - the only major change in the last 10K years or so has been man.

Why did the FOUNDER of the weather channel walk away?
Plenty of climate scientists have said it is bullshit.

More have said it's NOT BS. So there's that.

I'll hang my hat on the preventative side of the argument - thanks.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28666 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: I wish she would come in here Reply #6 - 06/15/17 at 10:40:02 An elitist, New York, pro-choice, lesbian, liberal, Democrat, Bernie supporter, that teaches women's studies... Did you bump your head this morning, JoG?... You okay, buddy?...
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Reply #7 - 06/15/17 at 11:04:58

Serowbot wrote on 06/15/17 at 10:40:02:

An elitist, New York, pro-choice, lesbian, liberal, Democrat, Bernie supporter, that teaches women's studies...
Did you bump your head this morning, JoG?... Huh

You okay, buddy?... Undecided

I agree with JOG.... I don't agree with her 100%, but at least she sounds like you could discuss differences and part company on a friendly basis...

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Reply #8 - 06/15/17 at 11:39:20

The reason for your confusion is obvious.

olar cycle or solar magnetic activity cycle is the nearly periodic 11-year change in the Sun's activity and appearance. They have been observed for centuries. The changes on the sun cause effects in space, in the atmosphere, and on Earth's surface. While it is the dominant variable in solar activity, aperiodic fluctuations also occur. Play media Evolution …

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
https://www.bing.com/search?pc=SOWI&form=AMZNS1&q=sun%27s+output+over+time

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Reply #9 - 06/15/17 at 12:03:14

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/17 at 11:39:20:

The reason for your confusion is obvious.

olar cycle or solar magnetic activity cycle is the nearly periodic 11-year change in the Sun's activity and appearance. They have been observed for centuries. The changes on the sun cause effects in space, in the atmosphere, and on Earth's surface. While it is the dominant variable in solar activity, aperiodic fluctuations also occur. Play media Evolution …

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
https://www.bing.com/search?pc=SOWI&form=AMZNS1&q=sun%27s+output+over+time

Yeah, I do. (thanks for pointing out that the Sun has been the same for billions of years).

I'll stay on the side that wants to create cleaner energy.

Thanks.

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Reply #11 - 06/15/17 at 12:36:08

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/17 at 12:10:53:

changes on the sun cause effects in space, in the atmosphere, and on Earth's surface. While it is the dominant v

Where are you getting

The sun doesn't change?

Well - regardless of your terrible cut and paste skills, I get that the Sun has CYCLES. If you would research further, you'd see that independently of these cycles, the Earth is warming at an alarming rate.

Again - you go right ahead and ignore it. I'll err on the side of clean energy, thanks.

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Reply #13 - 06/15/17 at 13:55:46

The same Climate Science was screaming
Mini Ice Age Coming
Until
OHH, MuGawd, We're gonna overheat!
became
The Boogeyman..

You don't want to discuss HOW the ice age ended.
Why?
What caused the Huge Glaciers that carved out the Great Lakes to melt?
Your SUV?

You should look up Martian Polar Ice Caps
Unless it's just a conspiracy theory.

Why is it so reasonable to Fear the Climate, ?
And where is that list of Climate Science Predictions that came true?

And, with the Great Big Nothingburger list of scary crap that you people have been freaking out over,

WHY, FFS, WHY is it Ohhh so reasonable to be afraid of the climate change that we can't do squat about, but importing people who hate us is smart?

I WANT that list of Dire Warnings that came true that Justifies the ongoing fear of the climate.

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Reply #14 - 06/15/17 at 14:11:20

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/17 at 13:55:46:

The same Climate Science was screaming
Mini Ice Age Coming
Until
OHH, MuGawd, We're gonna overheat!
became
The Boogeyman..

You don't want to discuss HOW the ice age ended.
Why?
What caused the Huge Glaciers that carved out the Great Lakes to melt?
Your SUV?

You should look up Martian Polar Ice Caps
Unless it's just a conspiracy theory.

Why is it so reasonable to Fear the Climate, ?
And where is that list of Climate Science Predictions that came true?

And, with the Great Big Nothingburger list of scary crap that you people have been freaking out over,

WHY, FFS, WHY is it Ohhh so reasonable to be afraid of the climate change that we can't do squat about, but importing people who hate us is smart?

I WANT that list of Dire Warnings that came true that Justifies the ongoing fear of the climate.

What you want and what you'll get are two entirely different things.

Go ahead and stew - I'll err on the side of clean energy.

Thanks.

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