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Versy Mod Saved Me
06/12/17 at 14:56:32

Yesterday, while tooling around on the Mighty Savage, I found myself sitting at a traffic light, minding my own business, when the motor just suddenly stopped. I hit the starter button and the awfullest grinding noise spilled from the bottom of the engine--like a Jap Zero being shot outa the sky over the Pacific. I managed to push her home where I opened the clutch cover to find the cam chain tensioner shoulder bolt had backed out. It even looked like some broken threads. The c-clip has also broken in two. darn...

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piedmontbuckeye Senior Member Offline Go Bucks! Posts: 496 Easley, SC Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #1 - 06/13/17 at 06:05:21 Something else for me to worry about!! I'm a worrier!
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Reply #2 - 06/13/17 at 06:48:26

At the risk of sounding seditious, I never had full faith and trust in the Mighty Savage. Don't know what Clymer sez, but I ordered a new replacement shoulder bolt (which is tiny, 6x12) and a new c-clip (that is even tinier). The replacement shoulder bolt will go in with blue Locktite and torqued to 8 ft. lbs. I'll fish around with a magnet for stray metal bits, then check valve timing before a box her up and try to start the motor. I already pulled the spark plug an poked a bore scope down the hole--looked okay.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #3 - 06/13/17 at 07:08:41 If you aren't sure of the timing, use a hand tool to spin the motor. If it's off and nothing is ruined, it could be if you hit the starter.
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Re: Versy Mod Saved Me
Reply #4 - 06/14/17 at 02:54:52

CaptHowdy wrote on 06/13/17 at 06:48:26:

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Out of interest, all looks pretty clean in there, did you salvage the gasket or was it baked on? I ask because I'm going to have to open the clutch cover in a few months and I was hoping to not have to spend another $35 on a new gasket. If it's definitely going to be cactus then I'll have one ready, otherwise I was thinking if I really need one I only have to wait a couple of days. It's only had a years worth of riding but it did get a bit hot for the first two months till I adjusted the carb.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10668 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #5 - 06/14/17 at 04:55:47 Check ebay for a replacement gasket, they are usually available for a lot less.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #6 - 06/14/17 at 09:29:20 I walked into an independent bike shop and they Printed out the gasket for$14.00. Call around.
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Reply #7 - 06/14/17 at 11:56:44

eau de sauvage wrote on 06/14/17 at 02:54:52:

CaptHowdy wrote on 06/13/17 at 06:48:26:

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Out of interest, all looks pretty clean in there, did you salvage the gasket or was it baked on? I ask because I'm going to have to open the clutch cover in a few months and I was hoping to not have to spend another $35 on a new gasket. If it's definitely going to be cactus then I'll have one ready, otherwise I was thinking if I really need one I only have to wait a couple of days. It's only had a years worth of riding but it did get a bit hot for the first two months till I adjusted the carb.

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Mine had over 8,000 miles when I removed clutch cover and the gasket did not need replacing. It is some sort of plasticized (?) one, so it had tremendous anti-tearing ability. Worked well on re-assembly.

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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #8 - 06/14/17 at 15:24:03 On stamped C-clips there is one side where the edges are square and the other the edges are rounded , The square side should be faced toward the outside of the bike when used on the tensioner body.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #9 - 06/14/17 at 15:27:26 That's a nugget..
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eau de sauvage Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2565 Queensland Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #10 - 06/14/17 at 16:01:04 OK good call on eBay. Most of them are overseas and postage brings the price up, but I found this one in the UK with cheap postage, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CLUTCH-COVER-GASKET-ATHENA-For-Suzuki-LS-650-F-Sav... does it looks right? Their data as to what it fits is a bit odd. PS sorry to hijack the thread.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #11 - 06/14/17 at 17:00:36 As far as gaskets goes they're all the same. The athena brand is made in italy. and includes valve stem seals. one person said one of the non oem brands didn't have the right hole dims in one of the gaskets, don't remember which, don't remember where. not really a problem, just resize the hole.
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madmikesmech Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 227 Olean ny Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #12 - 06/15/17 at 09:17:47 Amazonfor clutch cover gasket... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0167SPT4K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&ps...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #13 - 06/15/17 at 09:24:19 My clutch actuator o-ring leaked. It's a cheap fix except for pulling the side off, A new o-ring while you are in there costs a quarter.
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CaptHowdy Junior Member Offline Old Skool Posts: 58 South Louisiana Gender:	Re: Versy Mod Saved Me Reply #14 - 06/17/17 at 12:37:27 Looking at the CLUTCH side, what direction should the crank turn? The Mighty Savage is jammed in between two other motorcycles and the truck, so I can't just put it gear and figure it out. The spark plug is out and the clutch cover is removed. I'm not optimistic about what I'm going to find.
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