This is the perfect response to both the "religious persecution" and megachurches in America:

http://revolsen.com/2017/05/17/an-open-letter-to-rev-franklin-graham-from-a-s...

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/17 at 09:55:23:


You seem to have missed the gist of the letter....

"Moreover, there is a Christian fellow named Paul (aka Saul) who wrote a letter to a church in Rome nearly two thousand years ago. He said that if your enemy is hungry you should feed him (that’s in the Bible too). So wouldn’t it have been the Christian way to have baked a cake for the same sex couple in your example, even if you deem them enemies (another assertion I don’t quite understand)? I’m confused."

It's not about legality - it's about adhering to a Christian attitude.  It's about not being a hypocrite.  Jesus never shunned a leper....

Well Jog, we have beat this subject pretty good already.....
But that has never stopped me from giving my 2 cents  

As a bible reading Christian no where do I read I am forbidden in commerce re: my faith, other than being truthful.
Nor do I understand a faith that can be threatened by the acts and beliefs of others.
Let me try this analogy.
I want to build a church.
One that I truely believes allows me to express myself through design of that church......
However the city engineering won't grant me permits because they say it will not be a safe structure if built as I want.
Is that the government infringing on my constitutional right to freedom of religion?

I say no.
Faith is unique unto each beliver and only requires a relationship with, and a understanding standing of, the trinity, to have that fulfilling and abundant life of certainly your faith gifts you.


Alright, you can donate via PayPal for this sermon  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/17 at 10:14:59:


Um, no....

Tell me - when did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual?  LOL - as much as you think - being homosexual is NOT a choice.

But that is a digression...

Further and again - it's about being a good Christian.  Don't Christians have fellowship?  Don't they reach out?  Don't they give without consideration of what they get back?

I think it's you who might be missing the point.

But I'm curious - what are the thoughts on the pastor that wrote the letter?  Is he less of a Christian?  Is he not worthy to speak the Gospel of The Lord?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/17 at 11:09:24:



Aaaand once again, the initial post has been hijacked/ignored.  This actually isn't about gay rights (if you truly read the article, you'd know that).  I only answered your first post accordingly.... but anyhoo...

It's about the supposed "war on Christians".  

Now - is this pastor right or wrong in his views?  Is he less of a Christian because he doesn't see the "harm" being done to "Christian values"?

I don't expect an answer - but maybe you can think about it on your own...

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/17 at 13:26:05:



Really?  Well, the FACT is - you didn't answer anything...

Come on - just own it.  Do you think that the pastor's letter is wrong or right?

Do you honestly think that Christianity is "under attack" in this country?  Do you think his address to the "big time" pastor was correct in it's assessment?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/17 at 14:47:14:



FINALLY an answer!!!  See was it really that hard to do??

Personally, I don't know how you can say that about a pastor.  This is not some guy off the street.  He graduated from a seminary in Minnesota.  If anything, he's far MORE knowledgeable than the average person - he's right there on the (non-existent) "front lines".

Are you an ordained minister?

I personally like to see a small church call out a large one like this. The megachurches are a joke in that the pastors are only in it for one thing - the big money.  

Look at the bigger picture - this isn't about gay rights - this is about mega churches preaching fear and hate.

Like I said, Jesus wouldn't have condoned these kinds of bigotry.  From what I know of the guy, he was far more tolerant than today's self-proclaimed "Christians".

There are Liberal and conservative Christians, Franklin conservative, this other fellow liberal....the BOTH can preach the Gospel but ask yourself this?

If someone ask a Christian to help them steal should they help?
If a Christian is asked to give someone a ride to an abortion clinic should they go?

In Paul's letter to the Romans he was expressing that Christians should not hate their enemy, he never once asked them to participate.