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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Swing arm tolerances 05/15/17 at 09:01:58 When adjusting my belt tension I noticed that the width of the swing arm forks is 1/16" wider than the width of the wheel assembly. Which of course means that when tightened the swing arm forks are squeezed together. I'm thinking of doing the Home depot thing and finding a 1/16" spacer to take up the gap. Anybody else run into this problem? :'(
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #1 - 05/15/17 at 09:06:45 This is not the problem you are looking for... move along. Just last weekend I noticed as I loosened the nut on the axle how much it sprung out. And how easy it was to drop the wheel and get the spacers out. And later when I reassembled, aligning the break hub was easy. So you got to cinch it up more.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #2 - 05/15/17 at 09:23:26 norm92de wrote on 05/15/17 at 09:01:58: Anybody else run into this problem? What problem? That gap is there by design. Now, if the gap was there after properly torquing the axle nut, then we'd be talking about a problem.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18096 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #3 - 05/15/17 at 09:31:16 Can you imagine how hard it would be to fit all those loose parts together and slide it into the swing arm - if the little gap wasn't provided! It is a gift from Suzuki to make our life easier!
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #4 - 05/15/17 at 10:55:19 I guess I asked for that :'(
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #5 - 05/15/17 at 18:17:06 You came out alright. What if you would have FixtIt first, Then came in here asking howcum putting it together is harder. ?
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Re: Swing arm tolerances
Reply #6 - 05/15/17 at 18:52:29

verslagen1 wrote on 05/15/17 at 09:06:45:

This is not the problem you are looking for... move along.

Just last weekend I noticed as I loosened the nut on the axle how much it sprung out. And how easy it was to drop the wheel and get the spacers out. And later when I reassembled, aligning the break hub was easy. So you got to cinch it up more.

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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #7 - 05/16/17 at 14:20:12 And now we know the reason that the lines on the swingarm can't be used to align the belt.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #8 - 05/16/17 at 14:54:18 Next question! Which is more important wheel alignment with the centerline of the bike or pulley tracking/alignment?
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #9 - 05/16/17 at 16:06:49 Pulley alignment
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #10 - 05/16/17 at 16:42:51 But if the bearing in the pulley is good and the rubber shock absorbers aren't worn they should both be very close.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #11 - 05/16/17 at 18:34:26 Knowing what I do about manufacturing tolerances. We need to consult Kevin Cameron.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #12 - 05/16/17 at 18:37:42 My opinion. Wheel alignment reigns supreme! It is, after all, a two wheeled vehicle. Both of them should be going in the same direction.
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Reply #13 - 05/16/17 at 19:13:43

norm92de wrote on 05/16/17 at 18:37:42:
My opinion. Wheel alignment reigns supreme!

It is, after all, a two wheeled vehicle. Both of them should be going in the same direction.

You would be wrong. If the pulleys are out of alignment the belt will wear in short order. On the extreme side, you run the risk of the belt riding up the side of a pulley and removing itself.

The wheel adjustment marks are not to be trusted. If the marks are off by half a notch, but the pulleys are in alignment, then you should ignore the hash marks.

BTW, being a single track vehicle, a motorcycle has the ability to manage front / rear misalignment quite well.

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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Swing arm tolerances Reply #14 - 05/16/17 at 20:09:50 I don't know how far off the pulley would have to be to ride up the sides. But I'll take my chances with wheel alignment. A rider- not me anymore- would know in a second if the wheels were out of alignment. I suppose being around aircraft has made me picky about adjustment.
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