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How Repulicans fix things.
05/04/17 at 08:20:57
 
The Obamacare repeal has 17% public approval.  At least 14 million people will lose their insurance.  Rates will go up for everyone except the very rich, especially the elderly, and people with pre-existing conditions. It will cost more.
AARP, doctors, hospitals, and patient advocates are all against it.
.. and this is how Republicans "fix" a problem...

In what way is this working for the people?...

It's like repairing potholes with dynamite... Huh
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Reply #1 - 05/04/17 at 08:29:12
 
And where is that from?

I would like to read that POV.

Because, My, Premiums, have gone up, 40-60% each year,
since, the, 'Wanna Be KING', made,  Bahama care, Mandatory!
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Reply #2 - 05/04/17 at 08:54:47
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/04/17 at 08:20:57:
The Obamacare repeal has 17% public approval.  At least 14 million people will lose their insurance.  Rates will go up for everyone except the very rich, especially the elderly, and people with pre-existing conditions. It will cost more.
AARP, doctors, hospitals, and patient advocates are all against it.
.. and this is how Republicans "fix" a problem...

In what way is this working for the people?...

It's like repairing potholes with dynamite... Huh


Fortunately, it doesn't look like it'll get past the Senate.
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Reply #3 - 05/04/17 at 12:49:23
 
depends who you talk to...
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The poll, released Thursday, finds 57 percent of voters favor doing away with all (23 percent) or parts of Obamacare (34 percent).  On the other hand, 41 percent would expand it (28 percent) or leave the law as is (13 percent).
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/19/fox-news-poll-views-on-obamacare-s...
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Affordable Care Act Gains Majority Approval for First Time
55% approve, up from 42% right after 2016 election
40% want to keep law but make significant changes
30% want to repeal; 26% want to keep law as it is
http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval...


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Reply #5 - 05/04/17 at 18:38:33
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/04/17 at 08:20:57:
The Obamacare repeal has 17% public approval.  At least 14 million people will lose their insurance.  Rates will go up for everyone except the very rich, especially the elderly, and people with pre-existing conditions. It will cost more.
AARP, doctors, hospitals, and patient advocates are all against it.
.. and this is how Republicans "fix" a problem...

In what way is this working for the people?...

It's like repairing potholes with dynamite... Huh


Assuming those figures are true (doubtful 14 million will lose insurance and doubtful appeal has 17% approval. Trump got 62 million votes remember) , what you didn't say is what the alternative is.  Rates have gone up already and they will only go up further next year when another large insurance company pulls out. Millions have lost coverage.   It's been a disaster, it's not a success. If Obamacare was working, yea, it would be silly to 'fix' it, but it's not.
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Reply #6 - 05/04/17 at 18:51:12
 
Let's pass it to see.......

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Reply #7 - 05/04/17 at 19:58:48
 
The insurance companies are fleeing Obamacare because they don't like the pre-existing conditions rules....and they think (correctly) that the republicans will do away with them.
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Reply #8 - 05/04/17 at 21:33:50
 
Trippah wrote on 05/04/17 at 19:58:48:
The insurance companies are fleeing Obamacare because they don't like the pre-existing conditions rules....and they think (correctly) that the republicans will do away with them.


I think the genie is out of the bottle and not going back in....
Pre-exsisting condition is still a medical condition, and isn't that the crux of medicine...... Grin
I think some sort of healthcare will result from Obamacare, a good thing.
I like personal responsibility tax, live fat and lazy, smoke, etc, you pay more.
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Reply #9 - 05/05/17 at 04:50:36
 
Trippah wrote on 05/04/17 at 19:58:48:
The insurance companies are fleeing Obamacare because they don't like the pre-existing conditions rules....and they think (correctly) that the republicans will do away with them.


"They don't like the pre-exsisting conditions rule"
What you mean to say is they cannot charge a high enough premium to pay for something which, under Obamacare's rules, is not insurance.

I tell you what; why don't you go start an insurance company selling homeowners insurance. I'll be driving home one day, see my house on fire, call you, buy "fire insurance" and then immediately file a claim for $300k when my house is gone. Oh, after you pay me off, I'll cancel my policy and do without until I need one again.

That's why 30 % of counties in the US have only one option in the Obamacare exchanges. There's no competition to drive prices down, there's no real insurance markets. It's a fund some people contribute premiums to that anyone can withdraw from.
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Reply #10 - 05/05/17 at 07:02:25
 
On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

http://theweek.com/speedreads/696859/fox-news-charles-krauthammer-predicts-am...

Imagine the PR coup if Republicans stole the glory now... Undecided
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Reply #11 - 05/05/17 at 07:30:02
 
Undo the BS and allow the market to work.
Go back to Pre HMO,
What we are gonna get when They fix our health care system is screwed.
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Reply #12 - 05/05/17 at 07:59:00
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/05/17 at 07:30:02:
Undo the BS and allow the market to work.
Go back to Pre HMO,
What we are gonna get when They fix our health care system is screwed.

Jog,.. pre HMO you had Blue Cross Blue Shield,... which was then government subsidized...

"Prior to 1986, organizations administering BCBS were tax exempt under 501(c)(4) as social welfare plans. However, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 revoked the exemption, because the plans sold commercial-type insurance. They became 501(m) organizations, subject to federal taxation, but entitled to "special tax benefits""-wiki
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Reply #13 - 05/05/17 at 08:19:01
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/05/17 at 07:02:25:
On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

http://theweek.com/speedreads/696859/fox-news-charles-krauthammer-predicts-am...

Imagine the PR coup if Republicans stole the glory now... Undecided


As much as I dislike charles, I hope he's right.  I just hope it happens sooner than that.

The original ACA should have had a single payer option - but the dems, being the wussies that they are, left it out.

I guess we'll see after this joke of a bill from tweety.
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Reply #14 - 05/05/17 at 08:58:02
 
So, I'm "Subsidized " by criminals when they Don't break in and Steal what's mine?

If you're convinced that because BCBS was , uhh, subsidized, and that made it worse than wholly controlled by the goobs health care, please explain.

Once a Fkking gin, the HMO scheme limited access AND created a Whole New career field of Medical Coders. A College degree required to sit and enter numbers next to diagnoses, and they are well paid. A completely parasitic burden on the system.
The Unintended Consequences, not unforeseeable consequences, were a Real increase in costs of care.
Do we remember the social engineers mantra?

Problem, Reaction, Solution.
The Crisis was Created in order to get people to Want the government, (Yes , Martha, the same people who caused the problem.  ) to Fix it. And, like the education system they announced was broken and then went to work on, they are gonna FIX the health care system to death.
If they say it's good for us, but not for them, and you're goofy enough to support it, then good for you.
America swims in debt as they spend more. But somehow, the goobs who LITERALLY can't account for Billions of dollars, that's who you people want running things.
Geniuses..
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