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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #15 - 05/02/17 at 07:46:45 There's no adjusting the order. verify that it's adjusted properly and freely. If that doesn't rectify the issue then you need to replace the decomp controller.
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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #16 - 05/02/17 at 07:55:58 well that doesn't sound encouraging. Should I be looking at replacing the relay as well?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #17 - 05/02/17 at 08:00:47 I don't think so.
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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #18 - 05/02/17 at 09:20:32 If this is a decomp issue, shouldn't my draw be really high as it is attempting to turn over? My starter doesn't even appear to be trying to turn. and the battery is only dipping 0.2 V
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Re: Electrical Smoke
Reply #19 - 05/02/17 at 10:55:03

I'd pull the starter from the bike and run jumper cables off a car battery and see if the starter turns with no load. it may have run long enough to free the magnets inside the housing .This could provide a straight path to ground , without being able to spin the starter, which would send all the amperage in your battery through the pos cable burning off it's cover.

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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #20 - 05/02/17 at 12:30:20 I have bench tested the starter already. It spins without any problems when I hot wire it on the bench.
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Reply #21 - 05/02/17 at 13:57:07

I just pulled my starter motor and the relay. I hooked them up on the bench to test them. Put the starter in a vice and hooked up the relay as per normal. Then I hooked up a battery and jumpered 12v to the relay.
It clicked, but the starter did not spin. I checked and I am not getting any voltage on the starter side of the relay.

Have I missed something or is the relay my culprit?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #22 - 05/02/17 at 14:08:37 Sounds like you found the problem. 2 little connectors, one ground, one 12v from the starter button. 2 big connectors, one 12v, one to the starter. ground the starter case. but you probably know this.
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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #23 - 05/02/17 at 14:12:04 Yes, that agrees with what I know and did. But I'd rather have what I think I know confirmed than leave it to chance. I have a couple starter solenoids for gas engines kicking around, unfortunately they ground through the case so I can't straight swap them, I'll see if I can rig one up to work on the bench after work.
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greenmonster Senior Member Offline Hellooooo Nurse! Posts: 420 Vancouver BC Gender:	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #24 - 05/02/17 at 16:37:00 Set up with an alternate relay. Spins the starter motor like a hot dang! Guess I'll be contacting Pin Wall for a used relay. Unless you folks know somewhere cheaper for parts? It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay stealership prices for things like this.
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Re: Electrical Smoke
Reply #25 - 05/03/17 at 01:23:12

greenmonster wrote on 05/02/17 at 14:12:04:

I have a couple starter solenoids for gas engines kicking around, unfortunately they ground through the case so I can't straight swap them, I'll see if I can rig one up to work on the bench after work.

So.. it grounds through the case. So what?
If you can bolt it to the fender on the bike, then you are good to go. Or bolt a wire to the case and run that to the black/white (ground) wire for the solenoid.
As long as you can put it somewhere, and get the wires to it in a manner that they won't short against something, and it has enough current capacity to carry the starter load, it will work.

Check ebay too. Search for "suzuki (savage, s40, ls650) solenoid"

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Electrical Smoke Reply #26 - 05/03/17 at 16:13:13 A big mower might have the right size. Doesn't need to carry enough current to start a Big Rig engine.
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