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Reply #30 - 03/28/17 at 18:14:07
 
I believe the concept comes from the days of side valve engines. We can kill the folklore right here, right now.
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Reply #31 - 03/28/17 at 19:07:36
 
Some performance builders still use plug shims to correct to plug position for proper alignment in combustion chamber for faster more complete burn. As Armen would say " Gonna get that last .6 of a horsepower "
I believe the term is " Spark Plug Indexing "
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Reply #32 - 03/28/17 at 19:14:15
 
I'd need to see a dyno comparison.
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Reply #33 - 03/29/17 at 18:43:31
 
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 03/28/17 at 18:14:07:
We can kill the folklore right here, right now.


Maybe plug indexing and one of these...

https://www.google.com/search?q=intake+tornado&num=50&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa...

...would net another 15 hp?  Cheesy
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Reply #34 - 03/29/17 at 19:22:42
 
I don't think that fan thing would do anything but slow incoming air.
But if your running a mikuni vm36 a UFO & a Quad Flow Wing , claims 1 H/P per 100cc !
So if you have the 695cc big bore that should net you another 7 H/P and some awsome acceleration !
Sorry I don't have dyno reports to back it up , but you can come take it for a ride and see for your self , but it has several other engine mods as well !
Add a Intelajet too for a additional mid range punch !

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Reply #35 - 03/29/17 at 21:48:34
 
Plugs......Nothing to think about.  Just gap them, and put them in .
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Reply #36 - 03/30/17 at 16:50:25
 
That sounds like a winner to me!


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Yeah, it's a gimmick!
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Reply #37 - 03/30/17 at 18:24:58
 
It does have a draw back , it runs so good it's real hard not to open it up every chance you get , in turn fuel mileage takes a hit , but I guess it would be ok if I OBEYED the speed limit , but it's waay too much fun to ride fast !!
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Re: Correct OEM Spark Plug
Reply #38 - 03/31/17 at 04:25:46
 
This is what you really need......a small 12v fan as a supercharger!  The darn thing is supposed to increase engine power......looks like a big blockage in the intake pipe to me.  Why would anybody be fooled into thinking a tiny electric fan can provide boost?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Electric-Supercharger-Turbos-intake-Fan-Boost-12V...

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Reply #39 - 03/31/17 at 06:08:50
 
I have a Subaru BRZ that has a REAL electric super charger. It operates on a dedicated 24V system (that is charged from the car alternator) and it makes about 5 pounds of boost. It only activates when the throttle is at 75% or greater, otherwise in spins just enough to keep it from being a restriction.

It's good for about 60 second bursts  (although 20 to 30 seconds is a long time under full throttle) and recharges/recovers in just a few seconds (depending on length of boost).

Horsepower in the BRZ goes from (on a dyno) 170 to 210 and torque goes from 135 to 200 lb-ft. What is impressive is the area under the curve. It completely changed the character of the engine. And it bolted on in about an hour of time.

I was one the beta testers of the system for Phantom Super Chargers

http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/

The technology is real and is now being adapted by OEM's such as Audi and Volvo. Their systems are 48V.
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Reply #40 - 03/31/17 at 19:05:05
 
Tune your intake with a length of pvc and get the same boost with no time limit.and no moving parts.
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Reply #41 - 04/01/17 at 17:18:18
 
batman wrote on 03/31/17 at 19:05:05:
Tune your intake with a length of pvc and get the same boost with no time limit.and no moving parts.


How does a PVC intake runner make boost? There is zero science to support this claim. All you can do is minimize loss.
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Reply #42 - 04/01/17 at 17:21:08
 
It won't make ANY boost but it will move your torque curve a little lower and make the engine more responsive.
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Reply #43 - 04/01/17 at 18:37:18
 
Kris01 wrote on 04/01/17 at 17:21:08:
It won't make ANY boost but it will move your torque curve a little lower and make the engine more responsive.



The goal is to FLATTEN a the torque curve and to move it up. Regarding Batmans post, he said that a PVC intake would somehow make 5 pounds of boost (the same as my supercharger spinning at 10,000 rpm with 5000w of power.). A tuned intake can actually pressurize the intake? How is that possible?
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Re: Correct OEM Spark Plug
Reply #44 - 04/01/17 at 18:41:24
 
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 04/01/17 at 17:18:18:
batman wrote on 03/31/17 at 19:05:05:
Tune your intake with a length of pvc and get the same boost with no time limit.and no moving parts.


How does a PVC intake runner make boost? There is zero science to support this claim. All you can do is minimize loss.


You have to know the science to make what batman says make sense.
It's a little bit like the exhaust... a long straight pipe with a burst of pressure traveling down it.
Once it gets going it develops momentum and in the case of the intake, only thing to stop is the piston.
Then the intake valve shuts and bounces the flow back the way it came.
Until the intake opens again, the flow snaps back to heads down the pipe again in one hell of a rush.

The trick is to make the intake long enough so the pressure wave doesn't get out before it turns around.
At high rpm, a velocity stack is all you need.  mid-range on our thumper, you may need one a foot long.
the math is around here somewhere.
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