I appreciate all the information.I  have spent most my time off this week working on the 86 .  I did a raptor petcock switch . Installed  taller shocks to accommodate for my hard saddlebags . Also I raised my bars from stock to 12 inch mini apes  ( puts my hands just at shoulder level Wich is comfortable to me ) . Then extended the wires  ,clutch and throttle cables . Just finished running the wires thru the bars last night  for that nice clean look . I'm not sure wether I'm going to go chain or pulley . I'd really like to get a lil more out of the bike . But other than  an open air filter with  and  open header situation single adjustable baffle ( thinking about changing that . Or adding a lollipop after the baffle to add a lil more back pressure)  it's totally stock as far as I know . Do I need to upgrade the motor  before I do a pulley or chain swap ? Don't think I have enough time before my trip to do engine upgrades .    I just  ordered the cam chain tensioner mod  and the soft plug replacement plus push in seat pins   for the 86 and hope to get them next week sometime . ( Not rushing just hoping ) I also ordered all the parts  I need to get the 99 savage running  too  . I'm planning on getting it back together  as soon as my parts for it arrive . I love the prices of stuff on eBay and online but I miss being able to pay for something and pick it up right then .  Plus I'm impatient and just wanna get it done .  Probably gonna be headed back to the shop today  to finish  painting and remounting  the hard saddle bags  but first I gotta  adjust my belt tension I have it a lil tight I think after adding the taller shocks . Agian I really appreciate all the advice . It is a bit overwhelming so much information and  a few different opinions . Doing my best to  figure out what would be best for my situation. Plus taking the time to post as I'm not the  most computer savvy . I'm only 42 but I'm a bit of an old grumpy bastard  and a Luddite ( think I spelled that right ) .  lol .I'm sure I'll be on here later or tomorrow asking  some tuning and carb questions .   Hoping the pic I loaded this is me and my buddy's bikes before the trip to Astoria Oregon from Portland  a few weeks ago . Before Il the shocks and raptor mod will put more pics on later  

Oh yeah and to Maurizio the gentleman from Italy . Right on man thanks for all the great info .  I've been to Italy ounce when I was stationed in Germany  in the late 90s but only for a few days . Always wanted to go back . Maybe after my cross country trip I can go ride Europe . How much is a  a decent running savage cost over there ? I'd have to save up a bunch for a year or two to do it  but it would be worth it I bet .  On your chain conversion do you have oil issues ? I read in one of these post it lowers the oil pressure and pump effeciancy to do the chain swap. Just trying to get all the info before I decide what to do .  Thanks agian for all the info  .

Saddlebags are improvised off an old beamer and fiberglass . Not that heavy really empty there only a few pounds each . Fully loaded the only issues had was a bracket I built incorrect and with a huge pot hole  it hit the rear sprocket that's why I installed the bigger shocks . I'm going up to the shop today to readjust the rear end  make sure there is no clearance issues with the   larger shocks and to see if I can fit the front pulley mod  or not .    

Dave what you say is true the 10.5 compression is only at peak torque , that is why I used 4000 Rpm as my example.I'm fully aware that that compression is low before the peak due to late closing of the intake valve ,and after the peak due to restriction (nozzle effect) of the intake valve at higher speeds.Old Indian seems timid to run his bike to  4000 Rpm ,where the torque peaks and the compression and therefore the combustion temps are the highest.He can't gear the motor lower,the oil flow would be to low, that's why I suggest raising it to 17/45 or even stock. This would take the motor past the peak,allowing for better oil flow and cooler  combustion temps and allow him to cruise at highway speeds without care. with the 40 HP he has on tap why be limiting the bike to 60 mph when it can probably do 100,spending that amount of time and money for such bad performance makes little sense to me.think about it Dave wouldn't it be nice to be able to ride your bike at 55 in 5th gear and enjoy the fuel savings ,rather than 4th ?If you run a stock front pulley and kawa rear what would that ratio be?

The Supertrapp with fourteen disks, 140/90tire, jetted carb, Stage One cam, and I was giggling. The Supertrapp was louder than the Dyna and cost more than twenty times the money as the Dyna, so I'm settling for the Dyna.

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That's awesome .  Just did the shocks this week . Haven't really gotten to ride it much .  I just ordered the cam chain adjuster  and a few other parts plus a bunch of others online waiting for all that to come in . As soon as I get them and install them  I will be making another order of parts . If there are no clearance issues I will be ordering the  Kawi pulley kit when I order the others .  So  I was under  the impression that  I might need to worry about the tire /swing arm clearance with the  front pulley swap . I have the belt tensioned in the sweet spot( I think ) for the shock swap and it did bring the tire a touch closer to the swing arm .  Just want to be certain  .  Does anyone have any info about the Kawi front pulley swap on an the 4 speed ? Any issues or things I should know .  I just want to do it right . But I guess if It doesn't work on the 86  it will on the 99. really just hoping  I can eventually  do it on both .  No point  in having a loaner bike so friends can ride with me if they can't keep up  right . So trying to make them match in performance and have totally different styling  . Thanks agian for any info in this . Also please let me Know the best  way to order the pulley kit  from you  .