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Reply #16 - 02/10/17 at 13:55:14

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justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:53:34:

Anyone who doesn't know about the importance of the dead voting, the registration, coaching, transportation of people who are so mentally disadvantaged that they have court appointed people to watch over them, and I KNOW about that,I met a woman who required family members to discuss and figure out what she was trying to even say, but she voted, for Hillary. As did the others in her state funded home.

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It's on tape.
Can you cheat to win?

I've seen all of these - everyone has. It just doesn't add up to millions - it's just that simple.

Sorry.... If there was proof, it'd be all over the news, the internet, etc.

So it's ok as long as it's only demo's doing it?

You see the tip of the iceberg and you think you see all of it.

What if the iceberg is red?

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Reply #17 - 02/10/17 at 14:09:50

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/17 at 13:55:14:

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:58:00:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:53:34:

Anyone who doesn't know about the importance of the dead voting, the registration, coaching, transportation of people who are so mentally disadvantaged that they have court appointed people to watch over them, and I KNOW about that,I met a woman who required family members to discuss and figure out what she was trying to even say, but she voted, for Hillary. As did the others in her state funded home.

Watch Project Veritas,

Read the last one

Democratic Operative Explains Voter Fraud: We've Been Bussing ...
RealClearPolitics › video › 2016/10/18
Oct 18, 2016 - We've been bussing people in to deal with you crappity smackin' assholes for fifty years and we're not going to stop now. We're just going to find a different way to do it." "I think backwards from ...
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It's on tape.
Can you cheat to win?

I've seen all of these - everyone has. It just doesn't add up to millions - it's just that simple.

Sorry.... If there was proof, it'd be all over the news, the internet, etc.

So it's ok as long as it's only demo's doing it?

You see the tip of the iceberg and you think you see all of it.

What if the iceberg is red?

No, I'm not defending ANY voter fraud. All I'm saying is that there simply is no proof to the claim that millions have voted fraudulently.

There is no iceberg - no one can prove it.

This is all that I'm saying.

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Re: in nearly a century........
Reply #18 - 02/10/17 at 14:34:42

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 14:09:50:

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/17 at 13:55:14:

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:58:00:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:53:34:

Anyone who doesn't know about the importance of the dead voting, the registration, coaching, transportation of people who are so mentally disadvantaged that they have court appointed people to watch over them, and I KNOW about that,I met a woman who required family members to discuss and figure out what she was trying to even say, but she voted, for Hillary. As did the others in her state funded home.

Watch Project Veritas,

Read the last one

Democratic Operative Explains Voter Fraud: We've Been Bussing ...
RealClearPolitics › video › 2016/10/18
Oct 18, 2016 - We've been bussing people in to deal with you crappity smackin' assholes for fifty years and we're not going to stop now. We're just going to find a different way to do it." "I think backwards from ...
You visited this page on 1/23/17.
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The New American › politics › item › 24...
Oct 21, 2016 - We've been bussing people in to deal with you f*****g a******s for 50 years and we're not going to stop ...
“We've Been Bussing People In For Fifty Years” | Transterrestrial ...
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Oct 26, 2016 - A possible lefty reply… “You lie. It's only been 49 years!” We said it? “It's been edited by the Russians!
SCOTT FOVAL BRAGS '50 YEARS OF MASS VOTER FRAUD': 'WE ...
WordPress.com › 70news › 2016/10/19
Oct 19, 2016 - SCOTT FOVAL BRAGS '50 YEARS OF MASS VOTER FRAUD': 'WE'VE BEEN BUSSING PEOPLE IN ...
"Rigging Elections For 50 Years" - Massive Voter Fraud Exposed By ...
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Oct 18, 2016 - We've been busing people in to deal with you crappity smacking assholes for fifty years and we're not going to ...
Second Veritas Video: DNC Operatives Admit They've Rigged ...
Townhall › cortneyobrien › 2016/10/18
Oct 18, 2016 - "We've been bussing people in to deal with you f***in' assholes [Republicans] for fifty years and we're not going to stop now, we're just going to find a different way to do it,” Democratic ...

It's on tape.
Can you cheat to win?

I've seen all of these - everyone has. It just doesn't add up to millions - it's just that simple.

Sorry.... If there was proof, it'd be all over the news, the internet, etc.

So it's ok as long as it's only demo's doing it?

You see the tip of the iceberg and you think you see all of it.

What if the iceberg is red?

No, I'm not defending ANY voter fraud. All I'm saying is that there simply is no proof to the claim that millions have voted fraudulently.

There is no iceberg - no one can prove it.

This is all that I'm saying.

Yet we can prove that illegals can register, that they can use an invalid address to register, that they can be a felon, and they don't even have to be alive. But as long as they don't vote it's ok.

When I vote, all I have to prove is residency. If none of the other chit has to be proved, what is my vote worth?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: in nearly a century........ Reply #19 - 02/10/17 at 16:39:35 It's easy enough to see who benefits from the elimination of net neutrality by looking at who wants to end it. Why doesn't the same logic apply to who opposes voter ID?
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Reply #20 - 02/10/17 at 16:44:26

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/17 at 14:34:42:

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 14:09:50:

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/17 at 13:55:14:

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:58:00:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 12:53:34:

Anyone who doesn't know about the importance of the dead voting, the registration, coaching, transportation of people who are so mentally disadvantaged that they have court appointed people to watch over them, and I KNOW about that,I met a woman who required family members to discuss and figure out what she was trying to even say, but she voted, for Hillary. As did the others in her state funded home.

Watch Project Veritas,

Read the last one

Democratic Operative Explains Voter Fraud: We've Been Bussing ...
RealClearPolitics › video › 2016/10/18
Oct 18, 2016 - We've been bussing people in to deal with you crappity smackin' assholes for fifty years and we're not going to stop now. We're just going to find a different way to do it." "I think backwards from ...
You visited this page on 1/23/17.
We've Been Rigging Elections “for 50 Years” - The New American
The New American › politics › item › 24...
Oct 21, 2016 - We've been bussing people in to deal with you f*****g a******s for 50 years and we're not going to stop ...
“We've Been Bussing People In For Fifty Years” | Transterrestrial ...
Transterrestrial Musings › ...
Oct 26, 2016 - A possible lefty reply… “You lie. It's only been 49 years!” We said it? “It's been edited by the Russians!
SCOTT FOVAL BRAGS '50 YEARS OF MASS VOTER FRAUD': 'WE ...
WordPress.com › 70news › 2016/10/19
Oct 19, 2016 - SCOTT FOVAL BRAGS '50 YEARS OF MASS VOTER FRAUD': 'WE'VE BEEN BUSSING PEOPLE IN ...
"Rigging Elections For 50 Years" - Massive Voter Fraud Exposed By ...
Zero Hedge › news › massive-voter-frau...
Oct 18, 2016 - We've been busing people in to deal with you crappity smacking assholes for fifty years and we're not going to ...
Second Veritas Video: DNC Operatives Admit They've Rigged ...
Townhall › cortneyobrien › 2016/10/18
Oct 18, 2016 - "We've been bussing people in to deal with you f***in' assholes [Republicans] for fifty years and we're not going to stop now, we're just going to find a different way to do it,” Democratic ...

It's on tape.
Can you cheat to win?

I've seen all of these - everyone has. It just doesn't add up to millions - it's just that simple.

Sorry.... If there was proof, it'd be all over the news, the internet, etc.

So it's ok as long as it's only demo's doing it?

You see the tip of the iceberg and you think you see all of it.

What if the iceberg is red?

No, I'm not defending ANY voter fraud. All I'm saying is that there simply is no proof to the claim that millions have voted fraudulently.

There is no iceberg - no one can prove it.

This is all that I'm saying.

Yet we can prove that illegals can register, that they can use an invalid address to register, that they can be a felon, and they don't even have to be alive. But as long as they don't vote it's ok.

When I vote, all I have to prove is residency. If none of the other chit has to be proved, what is my vote worth?

Strange, because when I vote, I have to show my residency and match my signature on file. Unlike the old saying - you really can't "vote often".

But really - if it can be proved, then where is the story? Where is the recount of the millions of fraudulent votes? Who's investigating this?

Think about it, if voter fraud is that wide spread - then every single candidate in the general election is under suspicion. Maybe the republicans didn't win the majority in Congress? Maybe there were millions of republicans registered in more than one state (just like several on trump's team...) that voted more than once? If voter fraud is so rampant, then maybe there should be another general election. Did you know that less than 100k votes could have turned the tables in the electoral college?

You see, it's a red herring. There is no proof - there is no investigation.

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Reply #21 - 02/10/17 at 17:02:41

Where is the harm in taking one simple step? Who doesn't have a photo ID? What kind of person doesn't? You can't open a bank account, get on a plane, sign up for federal benefits, go to college, I've even had to show my drivers license and SS card to get a job. Who is involved enough in society to want to vote that doesn't have a photo ID?
Which party is against it?
The internet providers are against net neutrality. People understand why asking questions about who supports or opposes something points to who benefits. I'm stuck with believing that the dems benefit from things as they are. The assertion that it's not provable that the problem exists or isn't big enough to matter falls flat for me. If it doesn't change outcomes, it wouldn't be done. How much time and money would you spend to do something if it was ineffective? Or are democrats so stupid that they spend time and money for no gain?

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Reply #22 - 02/10/17 at 17:26:23

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 17:02:41:

Where is the harm in taking one simple step? Who doesn't have a photo ID? What kind of person doesn't? You can't open a bank account, get on a plane, sign up for federal benefits, go to college, I've even had to show my drivers license and SS card to get a job. Who is involved enough in society to want to vote that doesn't have a photo ID?
Which party is against it?
The internet providers are against net neutrality. People understand why asking questions about who supports or opposes something points to who benefits. I'm stuck with believing that the dems benefit from things as they are. The assertion that it's not provable that the problem exists or isn't big enough to matter falls flat for me. If it doesn't change outcomes, it wouldn't be done. How much time and money would you spend to do something if it was ineffective? Or are democrats so stupid that they spend time and money for no gain?

First off - enough of the democratic bigotry. I could start every one of my posts with "the repubs are idiots because...", but I don't. It's not fair to those republicans who actually remember what being a republican means. (I was a republican once).

It's not just a democratic thing. It's a rights issue and it just so happens that what (mostly) democrats are pushing for would make the process better for more voters - of both parties - to vote.

Is it a right to vote or not? It's still up for debate, but the fact is - if you don't like your voter registration system/voter ID system - then lobby to change it. The state level controls who's eligible and who's not.

"The assertion that it's not provable that the problem exists or isn't big enough to matter falls flat for me". What?? - Then you believe in bigfoot and pixies? (there's no proof that they don't exist...). C'mon.... That a horse-hockey kind of a statement.

If voter fraud were that rampant, then every election commissioner and every polling place volunteer should be brought up on charges.

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Reply #23 - 02/10/17 at 17:52:19

The democrats oppose voter id.
That tells me who believes they benefit.
Project Veritas exposed democrats bragging about bussing people. Do I have to type my experience again?
The knowledge we have is
Democrats oppose ID.
Project Veritas has known democrats bragging.
I met someone who was registered, coached, taken to vote. She's legally mentally incompetent and has a legal guardian. She can't even sign a contract,

Why is it unreasonable to protect the process of electing our representatives?
You're choosing to fail to read what I said.
You claim that what fraud exists doesn't change anything.
I pointed out how unlikely that is by posing pointed questions.
Unimpeachable evidence that democrats are engaging in unscrupulous acts to put votes in for democrats.
If it's infective, why do it?
I'm not a republican, I'm just sure as hell not a democrat.
Can you cheat and win?
Do the ends justify the means?
Do you want Honest Elections?
Is m y freedom as important as yours?

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Reply #24 - 02/11/17 at 14:11:18

T And T Garage wrote on 02/10/17 at 17:26:23:

Is it a right to vote or not? It's still up for debate, but the fact is - if you don't like your voter registration system/voter ID system - then lobby to change it. The state level controls who's eligible and who's not.

So I will take one sentence from your post, (Read post above for entire post)
And respond.

You have to ask if, and you believe,
“it’s still up for debate”
Concerning the, ‘RIGHT” to Vote ??????????????
Cheese and Rice !!!!!!!

The state level controls who’s eligible and who’s not.
Yep, And, Which States, completely Disallow, the Nations Citizens.
Their right to having their Vote Count ?
By Allowing a fraudulent Vote, to OVERRIDE, their, Legal Vote ???
By, NOT, requiring a person voting, to PROVE, they are a CITIZEN, of this Country ?????
Which POTUS said, (in Like), “you will NOT be Deported if you vote”?
Which, ‘party’, spends 5 times MORE, Allowing, NON CITIZENS, to vote ?
When they could help, by simply, paying for a Birth Certificate,
for the people that can’t afford the 15-35 dollars ???????

if you don’t like your voter registration system/voter ID system - then lobby to change it
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Reply #25 - 02/12/17 at 14:49:00

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/10/17 at 17:52:19:

The democrats oppose voter id.
That tells me who believes they benefit.
Project Veritas exposed democrats bragging about bussing people. Do I have to type my experience again?
The knowledge we have is
Democrats oppose ID.
Project Veritas has known democrats bragging.
I met someone who was registered, coached, taken to vote. She's legally mentally incompetent and has a legal guardian. She can't even sign a contract,

Why is it unreasonable to protect the process of electing our representatives?

It's not unreasonable. That's why it IS protected. You make it sound like there are no protections in place... sheesh.

You're choosing to fail to read what I said.
You claim that what fraud exists doesn't change anything.

The fact is, busing in registered voters to their polling place is not illegal. Yes, those folks are typically democratic.

I pointed out how unlikely that is by posing pointed questions.

I never claimed that the fraud didn't exist. I simply state that there is no proof of "millions".

Unimpeachable evidence that democrats are engaging in unscrupulous acts to put votes in for democrats.

Again, busing in registered voters is not illegal.

If it's infective, why do it?

Busing is VERY effective.

I'm not a republican, I'm just sure as hell not a democrat.
Can you cheat and win?

Yes - but that's not the case here.

Do the ends justify the means?

Yes - the more registered voters that vote, the better.

Do you want Honest Elections?

Yes - we do have honest elections. Trump won by that system, right?

Is m y freedom as important as yours?

It's not. Never said anything to to contrary - but I'd ask you the same question of me.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: in nearly a century........ Reply #26 - 02/12/17 at 14:57:12 When anyone is denied their Rights and freedoms, everyone should be concerned. We have to have each other's back. No, I won't protect your Right to destroy, burn, and assault.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: in nearly a century........ Reply #27 - 02/12/17 at 19:14:20 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/12/17 at 14:57:12: No, I won't protect your Right to destroy, burn, and assault. Good thing there is no such right, huh?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: in nearly a century........ Reply #28 - 02/12/17 at 20:31:22 It would seem that some believe it does.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10100 Minn Gender:	Re: in nearly a century........ Reply #29 - 02/13/17 at 18:24:32 T And T Garage wrote on 02/12/17 at 19:14:20: Good thing there is no such right, huh? *FREEDOM, of Speech, is a, RIGHT.* Looting Steeling, Setting Fires, Destroying Property, Spouting DEATH, Treats, Etc. Etc. Etc. Is Not even CLOSE, to a ‘right’. Get on the Bus, or stand inn the street and CRY !
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