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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #15 - 01/26/17 at 14:35:44 Tachometers are a wonderful (reasonably inexpensive and easily installed) device....
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Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que
Reply #16 - 01/26/17 at 14:44:38

My Ryca mini tach arrived in the mail today, after a two week wait.

It's taking everything I've got to not drop what I'm doing (which needs done right now) and go out and install it!

I might be a wee bit excited Cool

BTW, it's a great looking unit

old.indian wrote on 01/26/17 at 14:35:44:

Tachometers are a wonderful (reasonably inexpensive and easily installed) device....

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #17 - 01/26/17 at 17:36:31 There's a 30 mph road a little ways down from the house that's ALWAYS patrolled by the cops. At 30 mph, I'm in 3rd gear. The bike isn't happy in 4th. How are you guys getting away with using 5th?
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #18 - 01/26/17 at 17:42:20 If you build your motor and you want to use 5th gear you could go to chain drive and do the opposite of others,use a 13;43 setup 3.308 ,you wont be able to hit the "ton" and you will use more fuel ,but you'll get to 90mph real fast.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #19 - 01/26/17 at 18:18:07 Kris01 wrote on 01/26/17 at 17:36:31: There's a 30 mph road a little ways down from the house that's ALWAYS patrolled by the cops. At 30 mph, I'm in 3rd gear. The bike isn't happy in 4th. How are you guys getting away with using 5th? This...
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #20 - 01/26/17 at 19:37:44 It's called lugging the engine JOG I come out of first at 25 , my bike does not like & wasn't built to be lugged at low rpm in too high a gear. Twist n Shift n Go !
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Reply #21 - 01/27/17 at 05:17:41

Why are we worried about these charts?!!!!

I've never owned a motorcycle with a tachometer(or at least a working one). I just ride and shift when needed. It's not hard to tell when power flattens from stretching a low gear too far (over-revving is to motorcycles as The Law of Diminishing Returns is to Economics

) or when hanging onto a taller gear too long (or grabbing it too early) makes the motor struggle to chug along, i.e. lugging.

Besides, every bike and every rider is different. I'm 6'3" and weigh 250 lbs (I'm working on that weight now lol). My is mostly stock bike might lug at a specific speed in second gear when I'm on it, but it could chug along fine if my 120 lb wife was riding it at that same speed in the same gear. But what if I'm going up hill, downhill, on a flat or riding at higher elevations? These conditions are constantly changing. Do we need charts for that too?

What we hear, see and feel are what matters most and probably why we all ride in the first place. So what's the point of these charts and why do any of us really care about them?????

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Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que
Reply #22 - 01/27/17 at 05:31:06

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/25/17 at 07:11:01:

For me to hit fifth I need to either be Gently cruising on level or slight downhill to see 45 on the speedo. If I'm hustling or uphill, I'm not shifting before 50.
I don't look at the speed before I change, I am listening to the engine. I do sometimes glance down after a change, to see how I'm doing.
Pull away, accelerate, 20, hit second
30, third, and so on.

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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #23 - 01/27/17 at 05:32:09 Om,this topic was started by a newbie,he was reading to learn ,he is probably riding his first bike and doesn't know what it should sound or act like.the fact that Suzuki needs to do a better job of proof reading ,before they print ,was the cause of confusion .
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Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que
Reply #24 - 01/27/17 at 09:41:33

One of the things that some of us "old guys" need to remember is......that there are a whole lot of younger folks who never have driven a car that wasn't fuel injected - or had a manual transmission. These folks have never experienced driving with a manual choke, and the fun of using the accelerator pedal to keep the engine from dying in that weird zone where the engine is too warm to use the choke - yet still too cold to run without it.

We have had several new members who didn't expect that their engine will not idle well for the first few minutes after a cold start......their fuel injected car has never acted like that.

And a lot of these young folks have always had a car that did the shifting for them - and some modern cars even have computers that adapt the shifting to suite your driving style.

Luckily the Savage is pretty forgiving, and isn't likely to get broken or burned up from being abused (provided you keep oil in it and pay attention to the cam chain tensioner).

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #25 - 01/27/17 at 10:19:32 EVERYTHING these days is too automated! Where's the fun in that?
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Suzuki's published 'shifting up' schedule, que Reply #26 - 01/27/17 at 15:27:00 I go riding in southern New Mexico and on my route there are some villages with 30/35 mph speed limits. The gear that I use is always 3rd or possibly 4th, nearly always 3rd. The engine seems happier .
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