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Reply #15 - 01/19/17 at 11:05:58
 
"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."


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Reply #16 - 01/19/17 at 11:19:52
 
Watch
How the universe works.

Planets, moons, stars, all die.
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Reply #17 - 01/19/17 at 16:24:22
 
Paraquat wrote on 01/19/17 at 11:05:58:
"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."


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Well our star is only middle aged at this point so it still has a good 4 billion years before it dies so there is still a ton of time, and if our species still exists, which I find highly unlikely that we would have not annihilated ourselves by that point, one would assume we would have the technology to planet hop to a new home somewhere else in the universe.
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Reply #18 - 01/20/17 at 06:08:46
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/19/17 at 16:24:22:
one would assume we would have the technology to planet hop to a new home somewhere else in the universe.


I could move into my neighbor's house. Doesn't mean I'd be welcome there.


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Reply #19 - 01/20/17 at 07:05:59
 
Paraquat wrote on 01/20/17 at 06:08:46:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/19/17 at 16:24:22:
one would assume we would have the technology to planet hop to a new home somewhere else in the universe.


I could move into my neighbor's house. Doesn't mean I'd be welcome there.


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I am assuming a planet not inhabited with intelligent life
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Reply #20 - 01/20/17 at 07:52:35
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/20/17 at 07:05:59:
Paraquat wrote on 01/20/17 at 06:08:46:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/19/17 at 16:24:22:
one would assume we would have the technology to planet hop to a new home somewhere else in the universe.


I could move into my neighbor's house. Doesn't mean I'd be welcome there.


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I am assuming a planet not inhabited with intelligent life


I think he was assuming Bot's job (being flippant) and not meant to be taken seriously.

At least I hope he was..... Shocked
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Reply #21 - 01/20/17 at 08:18:13
 
raydawg wrote on 01/20/17 at 07:52:35:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/20/17 at 07:05:59:
Paraquat wrote on 01/20/17 at 06:08:46:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/19/17 at 16:24:22:
one would assume we would have the technology to planet hop to a new home somewhere else in the universe.


I could move into my neighbor's house. Doesn't mean I'd be welcome there.


--Steve


I am assuming a planet not inhabited with intelligent life


I think he was assuming Bot's job (being flippant) and not meant to be taken seriously.

At least I hope he was..... Shocked


So was I, I probably should have put a  Grin or 2
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Reply #22 - 01/20/17 at 09:23:20
 
Humanity has clearly demonstrated the ability to be inhumane.
If Staying on planet Earth means extinction, and someone else is living on a planet we could survive on, IF we could defeat them and take it from them, we would.
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Reply #23 - 01/20/17 at 09:35:33
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/17 at 09:23:20:
Humanity has clearly demonstrated the ability to be inhumane.
If Staying on planet Earth means extinction, and someone else is living on a planet we could survive on, IF we could defeat them and take it from them, we would.


Under the guise of God, or selfishness  Grin
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Reply #24 - 01/20/17 at 09:40:46
 
Thermodynamics
1) you can't win the game
2) you can't tie the game
3) you can't quit the game
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Reply #25 - 01/20/17 at 09:44:38
 
I've been playing Thermodynamics all my life.
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Reply #26 - 01/20/17 at 09:54:34
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/17 at 09:23:20:
Humanity has clearly demonstrated the ability to be inhumane.
If Staying on planet Earth means extinction, and someone else is living on a planet we could survive on, IF we could defeat them and take it from them, we would.


I don't agree for one very simple reason.  It is true that one of the many flaws of or species is the violence that we inflict on each others.  Through the course of human history we have seen that technology has been used for great good as well as great evil.  Technology has created horrible killing machines that increase the ability to, as well as, ease at which we can kill each other.   In order to to be able to do something as monumental as to migrate to another planet in a far off solar system we would need to have advanced technology far beyond anything we could imagine today.  If we have not learned to overcome this predilection for evil and violence we will surely have eradicated ourselves with the aid of technology long before reaching the ability to accomplish such a task.
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Reply #27 - 01/20/17 at 10:00:00
 
Read up on Fermi Paradox

I tend to lean this way. If there is life elsewhere, we'll never, ever know about it.
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Reply #28 - 01/20/17 at 10:11:23
 
Are humans flawed?
I would say yes.
I will base this on a single fact, or observation..,.
Our desire to survive.
It is a basic instinct at our very core. So deeply ingrained it is of subconscious nature.

Think of nature, where many species succumb to death to assure their kind survive, the salmon being a great example.

I think this instinct drives much political, and social agendas, and policies.
Which, has evolved to a current mindset, and promotion, that it sets up that instinct to combat perceived threats to all of our own belief structure.
In essence, it is a revolving problem predicated on who is holding sway.

However, I believe we do have the capacity to overcome this when we put others, first.
But that's a beech, for sure, as exampled by the vitriol we see folks hurling at each other.
Yes, I am part of that problem too, arg  Embarrassed
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Reply #29 - 01/20/17 at 10:44:04
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/17 at 09:44:38:
I've been playing Thermodynamics all my life.


Amen.
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