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Reply #60 - 01/11/17 at 09:24:31
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 06:32:06:
Oh and by the way this is some of the annoying PC police bullshit I was talking about. No I am not giving him a pass I just don't get uptight about every little F-ing thing and dissect every thing to try am create a false narrative.  I don't need to I base my arguments on reason and logic not emotion



PC bullshit?  OK then... I guess dressing up in blackface is cool again?  How about calling Native Americans "injuns" and mocking their dance, is that now cool too?  Speaking of which, how childish is donny to constantly refer to Senator Warren as "pocahontas"?

Indeed - reason and logic dictate your actions - at least they should.  donny should know better, but he doesn't.
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Reply #61 - 01/11/17 at 09:34:29
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:24:31:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 06:32:06:
Oh and by the way this is some of the annoying PC police bullshit I was talking about. No I am not giving him a pass I just don't get uptight about every little F-ing thing and dissect every thing to try am create a false narrative.  I don't need to I base my arguments on reason and logic not emotion



PC bullshit?  OK then... I guess dressing up in blackface is cool again?  How about calling Native Americans "injuns" and mocking their dance, is that now cool too?  Speaking of which, how childish is donny to constantly refer to Senator Warren as "pocahontas"?

Indeed - reason and logic dictate your actions - at least they should.  donny should know better, but he doesn't.


Are you comparing blackface to you misinterpreting someones hand gestures, that seems like a false equivalent to me.  While we are on that point maybe you can explain to me why "white face" done by a black person is perfectly exceptable.  Calling Warren pocahontas is not nearly as childish as someone falsely claiming they are a native american to get into a school.  Or for that matter being able to get into a school not based solely on merit but based, at least in part, on your race.
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Reply #62 - 01/11/17 at 09:34:50
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:10:59:
The only one who would have been worse that hillary is sanders.  You want to talk about inexperience the man never held a job till his 40's and he was kicked out of a hippy commune for not wanting to work Grin


Inexperience?  Um, in a commune, ok - but in Washington he did quite a bit.  He would have been far better than hillary and lightyears better than donny.

But we won't know, will we?  However, I do know that hindsight is 2020.
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Reply #63 - 01/11/17 at 09:38:13
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:34:50:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:10:59:
The only one who would have been worse that hillary is sanders.  You want to talk about inexperience the man never held a job till his 40's and he was kicked out of a hippy commune for not wanting to work Grin


Inexperience?  Um, in a commune, ok - but in Washington he did quite a bit.  He would have been far better than hillary and lightyears better than donny.

But we won't know, will we?  However, I do know that hindsight is 2020.


History has several examples of how well socialism works.  Sanders is clueless and would have destroyed this country
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Reply #64 - 01/11/17 at 09:52:43
 
Oh boy... here we go....

"Are you comparing blackface to you misinterpreting someones hand gestures, that seems like a false equivalent to me.  While we are on that point maybe you can explain to me why "white face" done by a black person is perfectly exceptable (sic)."

Misinterpreting?  The fact that there's need for ANY interpretation is proof enough that donny should have known better.
As to whiteface - it's not really a thing.   Besides, how has white America been marginalized?


"Calling Warren pocahontas is not nearly as childish as someone falsely claiming they are a native american to get into a school.  Or for that matter being able to get into a school not based solely on merit but based, at least in part, on your race."

So, name calling is NOT childish?  Seriously??... how can you say that and then turn around and complain about me using the name "donny"?  C'mon!  LOL!!

Warren's claim is not as false as you assume - one genealogical society has dug up a decades-old newsletter which referred to Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as being Cherokee, supporting Warren’s claim (source: The Atlantic).

FYI - As for the claim that Elizabeth Warren used her Native American heritage in order to get a job at Harvard, her supervisors have publicly confirmed that it played no role in the matter and that they weren’t even aware of it at the time of her hiring.
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Reply #65 - 01/11/17 at 10:12:10
 
If she Put on her application that she was of American Indian descent, then whether or not that information affected their decision to hire her doesn't remove the fact that she tried to use it.
Dig back far enough and just about everyone is related to someone they had no idea even existed. BFD, gret great great gramma? I doubt that degree of being related would even get someone on the reservation in Oklahoma. Some of the people in school in Tecumseh got a check every month , but they had to be something Measurable, like 20% ,
You're talking five generations.
Fauxcohantas is more like it.
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Reply #66 - 01/11/17 at 10:16:40
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:52:43:
Oh boy... here we go....

"Are you comparing blackface to you misinterpreting someones hand gestures, that seems like a false equivalent to me.  While we are on that point maybe you can explain to me why "white face" done by a black person is perfectly exceptable (sic)."

Misinterpreting?  The fact that there's need for ANY interpretation is proof enough that donny should have known better.
As to whiteface - it's not really a thing.   Besides, how has white America been marginalized?


"Calling Warren pocahontas is not nearly as childish as someone falsely claiming they are a native american to get into a school.  Or for that matter being able to get into a school not based solely on merit but based, at least in part, on your race."

So, name calling is NOT childish?  Seriously??... how can you say that and then turn around and complain about me using the name "donny"?  C'mon!  LOL!!

Warren's claim is not as false as you assume - one genealogical society has dug up a decades-old newsletter which referred to Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as being Cherokee, supporting Warren’s claim (source: The Atlantic).

FYI - As for the claim that Elizabeth Warren used her Native American heritage in order to get a job at Harvard, her supervisors have publicly confirmed that it played no role in the matter and that they weren’t even aware of it at the time of her hiring.


Your misinterpretation how no baring on whether or not his actions are childish just his intent.

ok so what your saying is its ok to paint your face and mock a race as long as they are not "marginalized"

I didn't say the name calling isn't childish just that trying to cheat the system is more so

come on your going to site some unsubstantiated document from decades ago that says she might be 64th cherokee as a right for her to claim that she is cherokee.  Well then since all humans originated in Africa I want to claim I'm African and get the 230 point bump in my SAT scores.

I don't care if her deception was successful, its irrelevant, I am only concerned in her attempt to deceive for the clear purpose of getting a leg up.
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Reply #67 - 01/11/17 at 10:17:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/11/17 at 10:12:10:
If she Put on her application that she was of American Indian descent, then whether or not that information affected their decision to hire her doesn't remove the fact that she tried to use it.
Dig back far enough and just about everyone is related to someone they had no idea even existed. BFD, gret great great gramma? I doubt that degree of being related would even get someone on the reservation in Oklahoma. Some of the people in school in Tecumseh got a check every month , but they had to be something Measurable, like 20% ,
You're talking five generations.
Fauxcohantas is more like it.


dam you beat me to the punch, I was typing my reply when you posted this  Grin
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Reply #68 - 01/11/17 at 10:22:40
 
Sorry, man. I'll try to slow down.
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Reply #69 - 01/11/17 at 10:25:31
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/11/17 at 10:22:40:
Sorry, man. I'll try to slow down.


thanks LOL
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Reply #70 - 01/11/17 at 11:02:04
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:38:13:
History has several examples of how well socialism works.  Sanders is clueless and would have destroyed this country


I hate to break it to you, but the US has MANY socialist programs that work just fine - Medicare being just one.  But you are right, socialism alone does not work.  In fact, there are very few examples left of any pure socialistic governments left.

And I hate to point out your ignorance about Bernie, but he's not a pure socialist.  All along he has stated that he's a democratic socialist.
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Reply #71 - 01/11/17 at 11:05:19
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/11/17 at 10:12:10:
If she Put on her application that she was of American Indian descent, then whether or not that information affected their decision to hire her doesn't remove the fact that she tried to use it.

She didn't put that on her application.

Dig back far enough and just about everyone is related to someone they had no idea even existed. BFD, gret great great gramma? I doubt that degree of being related would even get someone on the reservation in Oklahoma. Some of the people in school in Tecumseh got a check every month , but they had to be something Measurable, like 20% ,
You're talking five generations.
Fauxcohantas is more like it.


Your post fails.
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Reply #72 - 01/11/17 at 11:13:27
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 10:16:40:
Your misinterpretation how no baring on whether or not his actions are childish just his intent.

ok so what your saying is its ok to paint your face and mock a race as long as they are not "marginalized"

I didn't say the name calling isn't childish just that trying to cheat the system is more so

come on your going to site some unsubstantiated document from decades ago that says she might be 64th cherokee as a right for her to claim that she is cherokee.  Well then since all humans originated in Africa I want to claim I'm African and get the 230 point bump in my SAT scores.

I don't care if her deception was successful, its irrelevant, I am only concerned in her attempt to deceive for the clear purpose of getting a leg up.



OK, then please show me proof that she put that she was Native American on her application.
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Reply #73 - 01/11/17 at 11:19:00
 
My oh my - how easily we are distracted!

All these keystrokes could have been avoided had anyone on the right been forthcoming and just admit that donny's not keeping his promise to build a wall - one of the most significant parts of his campaign.

Oh well.

Of course, I am guilty of goading them on with questions...   Grin
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Reply #74 - 01/11/17 at 11:42:39
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/11/17 at 11:02:04:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/11/17 at 09:38:13:
History has several examples of how well socialism works.  Sanders is clueless and would have destroyed this country


I hate to break it to you, but the US has MANY socialist programs that work just fine - Medicare being just one.  But you are right, socialism alone does not work.  In fact, there are very few examples left of any pure socialistic governments left.

And I hate to point out your ignorance about Bernie, but he's not a pure socialist.  All along he has stated that he's a democratic socialist.


Yea he wants to let people own the businesses he plans to tax and regulate to high hell.  You can't polish nuts and you can't put the word democratic in front of socialist and make it somehow better.  I bet you love the failing social security system and public schools as well.  I don't see how you think that taking something that belongs to one person to give it to another is morally right.  

In her 30's elizabeth warren was listed under the minority section of a law teachers for-hire directory so she was trying to use that to her advantage to get a job
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