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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1452	Savage in vintage racing? 12/11/16 at 19:49:34 Since these bikes have been around for 30 years, they must be legal to race in somebody's vintage race series. Anyone know of a Savage based vintage racer? Who/what/when/where? thanks, -Armen
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #1 - 12/11/16 at 20:03:14 That would be very interesting. With only 30ish hp, it wouldn't compete very well.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5837 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #2 - 12/11/16 at 22:20:06 Armen I've pass a lot of Dressers of every kind on "Dragon-Type-Roads" , and even a few Sport-Bikes. I think the place the LS-650's shines is in the twistiest mountain roads. And the fact that it can do almost anything. I could picture a "stripped-down" version being a flat-track bike on dirt.
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Re: Savage in vintage racing?
Reply #3 - 12/12/16 at 00:33:16

Fact is, the Savage is at its best at the Dragon. On one (1) pass from overlook to Dragon Lodge I passed 8-10 items
(one was a panel truck which was hard).

Exceptions exist:

A certain white Honda flat four eats all our arses every time we meet up with him (he's a local).

ANY WELL RIDDEN modern 600cc crotch rocket can make you seem like you are sitting still.

Bikes that really don't like being eaten by a Savage = Triumphs and Ducatis
They pout afterwards .....

Place where the Savage suffers some ..... over 75 mph on the Interstates.

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Re: Savage in vintage racing?
Reply #4 - 12/12/16 at 03:22:40

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 12/12/16 at 00:33:16:

Fact is, the Savage is at its best at the Dragon. On one (1) pass from overlook to Dragon Lodge I passed 8-10 items
(one was a panel truck which was hard).

Exceptions exist:

A certain white Honda flat four eats all our arses every time we meet up with him (he's a local).

Reminds me of Dukes of Hazzard Grin

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ANY WELL RIDDEN modern 600cc crotch rocket can make you seem like you are sitting still.

I will take exception to that...
Most crotch rockets are so long geared a 600cc GSXZZKRR whatsit will be whining all along in 1st-2nd gear, while a big twin (Duke/Harley/BMW) will be thundering along in 3rd...

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Bikes that really don't like being eaten by a Savage = Triumphs and Ducatis
They pout afterwards .....

Place where the Savage suffers some ..... over 75 mph on the Interstates.

Alas...

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Reply #5 - 12/12/16 at 12:30:47

Even though you can get some H/P out of these engines they are much too heavy for a dirt tracker where power to weight rules/wins. But as a vintage road racer I think it would have some consistent lap times due too its thumpability! It would be fun to try but I wouldn't expect to win and isn't that the point of racing. My tracker weighs in at 313 lbs but it's built for me to abuse it , a road racer version would have to loose 13 to 20 lbs , it can be done if you drill enough holes Armen !!! Grin

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Re: Savage in vintage racing?
Reply #6 - 12/12/16 at 12:55:20

What kind of rules apply to "vintage racing" bikes" A 650 single most likely is not going to have any kind of a chance against the bikes that would be in the same class - would that be bikes with up to 750cc engines? With any number of cylinders?

Really....what chance would we have against a 550 or 750 Honda 4 cylinder that is race prepped?

The Savage engine and chassis is not well suited to racing - except in a class that is limited to entry level cruisers.....and then we could be very competitive!

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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #7 - 12/12/16 at 13:14:02 Dave, Our bikes are at least 30 years too new for Vintage Racing. At one time the rule was motorbikes built in 1956 or before, I am not sure if that has ever changed. Kenny G
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #8 - 12/12/16 at 13:21:20 Kenny G wrote on 12/12/16 at 13:14:02: Dave, Our bikes are at least 30 years too new for Vintage Racing. At one time the rule was motorbikes built in 1956 or before, I am not sure if that has ever changed. Kenny G How about if they were designed before '56?
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5108 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #9 - 12/12/16 at 15:07:03 Not to sure about road racing but they might run them all together but they might be in different classes, IDK Cross country stuff they all run together but have separate races by skill level novice , intermediate ,veteran/old farts, pro
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Kenny G Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com The Singles Club...LOL Posts: 1754 Robson Ranch, Denton, Texas Gender:	Re: Savage in vintage racing? Reply #10 - 12/12/16 at 17:38:54 Verslagen, I don't know the answer as to when they were designed if it is in the rules. Kenny G
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Re: Savage in vintage racing?
Reply #11 - 12/12/16 at 19:39:57

Most vintage road racing is pre 1968 ,some up to 1972
So if you want to race it you'll have to race with the big boys
It would still be a ton of fun and if you lucky you could seriously piss off some other racers ! I know I wouldn't come in last place , I would rather crash and DNF before that happened ! Tires and strip it down I can get it under 300 lbs. Racing slicks would look bad azz on my tracker , then I could really push the chicken strip right up to the edge ! Shocked

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