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Terrible Ted YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7	Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? 12/11/16 at 09:50:45 Is this an interference motor or no?
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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1452	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #1 - 12/11/16 at 10:22:29 Did you miss a shift, break the cam chain, or ???? Symptoms? A leak down test will answer the question pretty quickly.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #2 - 12/11/16 at 12:07:53 Yes, it is an interference engine - big time! Did you have a can chain tensioner let go?
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Terrible Ted YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #3 - 12/11/16 at 14:46:42 I think I screwed up setting the timing after changing the head gasket. Won't start, turning slowly while cranking. Gonna tear back open in a few days. Been workin on it for a while now, need a break, and I'm afraid to look. :'(
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #4 - 12/11/16 at 15:30:54 It wouldn't turn slowly. It would spin, clank, stop. Don't go Ripping into it. Study the valve timing and the timing mark on the crank. Check the battery voltage. Pull the plug and see how spinning the motor feels with a socket. Go slow. Feel.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #5 - 12/11/16 at 16:20:21 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/11/16 at 15:30:54: Check the battery voltage Got a car battery you can jump it off of? Don't run the car's engine at the same time. The car's alternator will fry the bike's electrical system.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #6 - 12/11/16 at 16:23:08 Not until he has checked How the engine feels. Study it, don't go seeing how hard you can spin it.
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Reply #7 - 12/11/16 at 17:21:27

Thanks guys.
It's a pretty new battery and I had it hooked to a tender so I know the battery is fine.
I think Justin's input is how I'll proceed.
At this point, if I did screw up getting the cam in, I'm hoping to be able to lift the head cover enough to get at the chain sprocket without tipping the engine forward to remove it completely, pull the tensioner off and right my wrong.
Any thoughts?

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Reply #8 - 12/11/16 at 17:24:59

Gently SEE if it will go to TDC.
Plug out, socket, end wrench, whatever, on the crank.
Feel the engine. If you are working at it with the plug out, stop.

It Should just spin on over from TDC compression and exhaust. I use a breaker bar because the ratchet just lets it spin. You should Hope it spins the ratchet.
Get it to TDC if it's spinning right, and study the valves.

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Terrible Ted YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #9 - 12/11/16 at 17:45:17 Thanks Justin!
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Flint Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks Alberta! Posts: 124	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #10 - 12/12/16 at 09:40:45 Make sure your decompression cable is hooked up right.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #11 - 12/12/16 at 13:16:17 And make sure your rotating it the same direction the wheels turn.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28888 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #12 - 12/12/16 at 13:28:49 If it's turning slow, that's the battery. And check your ground, if it's loose or dirty, could slow things down. A lot a people have gotten a new bad battery too, don't summarily assume it's good cause it's new. OR... did you have the stator cover off? could be you've put the washers back on incorrectly.
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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!??? Reply #13 - 12/12/16 at 15:46:43 Did you replace or ? the clutch ? I mis-installed the clutch and caused the engine to drag when I tried to start it....
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Re: Please tell me I didn't bend my valves!!!???
Reply #14 - 12/27/16 at 19:30:23

Update...
So as it turned out it was a valve clearance adjustment that was needed. Took care of that (not easy) and it fired right up. The reason I say not easy is because I was using a "cluster" type feeler gauge set. If I woulda had just a .004" gauge that was longer, it woulda been a lot easier. I did see a comment somewhere on this site about bending the feeler gauge into a Z shape, but since this was a borrowed set that really wasn't an option.

Thanks everyone for your input!

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