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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	For later 12/02/16 at 03:39:18 https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/former-presidents-warn/
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Reply #1 - 12/02/16 at 09:46:40

Okay, let's slow down,,

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 1913 (Appendix B)

I'm sure we all remember this guy
So, was he an idiot when you were hearing about him in history class?
Did he say this?
Are these the rantings of a madman?

What do they mean?
Not something they spent time on in school, wuzzitt?

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Reply #2 - 12/02/16 at 13:42:21

So,, here we have a statement by none other than Teddy Roosevelt. Couple that with the letter by George Washington that is archived in the Library of Congress, and what would the Rational take away be?
Something other than what is being Told us is How things Work
Is How Things Work.
Ikes farewell address would leave any sentient being understanding that the issue has not only Not been dealt with, it's a continuing threat.
Now, LOOKING at the behavior of D.C. and balancing that against the Will of the People, what would You say about it?
Our Elected representatives are working for us or someone else?
Is the cook eating steak and feeding the landowner dog food?

I've slowed my posts down as requested,, and I am presenting documentable, unassailable evidence that the reality of the Dumbmasses exists only in their minds and that they, or you, depending on which reality you acknowledge, either see or shrug it off. Will anyone find the guts to say
Hey, WAITAMINNIT! I've been being lied to!!??

The Establishment is going berserk over the idea of Trump being president. I'm seriously questioning whether or not they will manage to steal it from him. It's a full on political dirty tricks assault.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12868 Gender:	Re: For later Reply #3 - 12/02/16 at 13:54:44 Honestly, I just don't know if I want to put the energy onto going through this only to find it's taken out of context or just flat out fabricated.
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Reply #4 - 12/02/16 at 14:34:00

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The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799

George Washington to George Washington Snyder, October 24, 1798
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The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799. John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.
Mount Vernon, October 24, 1798.
Revd Sir: I have your favor of the 17th. instant before me; and my only motive to trouble you with the receipt of this letter, is to explain, and correct a mistake which I perceive the hurry in which I am obliged, often, to write letters, have led you into.
It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.
The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.
My occupations are such, that but little leisure is allowed me to read News Papers, or Books of any kind; the reading of letters, and preparing answers, absorb much of my time. With respect, etc.

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Are you unfamiliar with Ikes farewell address?

Actually, I'd Rather you prove it all wrong.
Ford was wrong, Ike and Teddy , both lunatics,

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12868 Gender:	Re: For later Reply #5 - 12/02/16 at 14:44:50 Jog, that is from 1798 for crying out loud. No, not familiar with Ike farewell.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: For later Reply #6 - 12/02/16 at 15:03:50 Uhhh, when did you expect a George Washington letter to be FROM? And the fact that it IS from that far back , coupled with Ikes spech, available, and I have posted links, so, if you choose to, you can educate yourself. It's not new or obscure. Here.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY Read some responses, too..
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12868 Gender:	Re: For later Reply #7 - 12/02/16 at 16:55:41 The fact unscrupulous business men have been trying to exploit the government is not new nor an indication of a secret organization .
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: For later Reply #8 - 12/02/16 at 17:46:54 So, all those historical figures WERE paranoid after all! Wheww! And all it took was Your in depth study and years of high government office experience to conclude that it's just the good ol.boys being good ol boys. Washington was delusional. Got it.
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Reply #9 - 12/03/16 at 05:49:40

I didn't read paranoid into it like you did. Telling me I should worry about an organization George Washington was talking about a 300 years ago is like telling I need to be on the look out for the Spanish Inquisition or Salem Witch hunters.

For the millionth time, there is no organization in collusion with world leaders (over the past centuries) who constantly orchestrate impossibly complex events in order to maintain some predetermined world order that presumably benefits only the very few who are in this secret little group.

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Reply #10 - 12/03/16 at 07:53:22

WebsterMark wrote on 12/03/16 at 05:49:40:

I didn't read paranoid into it like you did. Telling me I should worry about an organization George Washington was talking about a 300 years ago is like telling I need to be on the look out for the Spanish Inquisition or Salem Witch hunters.

For the millionth time, there is no organization in collusion with world leaders (over the past centuries) who constantly orchestrate impossibly complex events in order to maintain some predetermined world order that presumably benefits only the very few who are in this secret little group.

Web, you tell Jog to keep it real, yet you say for the millionth time, WTF?

I have been counting, you are short at making that declaration truth....

The count stands @ 999,999 times Grin

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Reply #11 - 12/03/16 at 18:16:00

WebsterMark wrote on 12/02/16 at 16:55:41:

" ... unscrupulous business men have been trying to exploit the government ... "

Has happened, Pre, 1776.
Has happened in the time of Kings.
Has happened in, Roman times.
Has happened, in 'Tribal' times.

Is it HAPPENING now, today. In the USA ?
YES.

Can we, the Citations, of the USA, DO Something about it ?

YES !

Perhaps, just perhaps, Today, is the Start of that !!!!!

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28804 L.A. California Gender:	Re: For later Reply #12 - 12/05/16 at 08:26:13 MnSpring wrote on 12/03/16 at 18:16:00: [color=#0000ff] Can we, the Citations, of the USA, DO Something about it ? [/c] Is that a new band you're in?
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Reply #13 - 12/05/16 at 11:03:23

verslagen1 wrote on 12/05/16 at 08:26:13:

Is that a new band you're in?

LOLOLOLOLO
Just, AWSOM, ‘auto spell’ LOL

Could have been, Citroën.
But I don’t think the Millennials , know what that word even is!

I remember plan old DOS,
(WAY before Windows)
and the spell check, was 20 times better.

Band, Ah Nope.
Harry Connick, Jr., Sings,
I Sing, (But, Just Not The Same) LOLOL

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