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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #15 - 11/11/16 at 12:50:15

oldNslow wrote on 11/11/16 at 12:09:56:

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well, we are going to be a lot more friendly to them than before, despite there anti-American ways, I wonder which country we'll let them invade and take next? maybe the rest of Ukraine?

Do we now have to betray our NATO allies?

Might not be a bad idea to expect our NATO allies to take a more active role in their own defense and not rely so heavily on the US.

Russia today is not the Soviet Union of the cold war. It may represent a threat to the Eastern European countries on it's border. Or maybe it just would like a buffer between itself and the western european NATO countries. I don't see that as especially unreasonable. It's debatable how much of an actual threat it is to Western Europe today. It's even more debatable how much of a threat Russia is to us.

Look, nobody should be surprised that Trump and Putin understand one another. They are both nationalists and neither of them believe in the globalist "one world" claptrap that has infected much of the west. Their foreign policy decisions will be based on their respective perception of what is in the best interest of their respective countries.When those interests conflict then there will be friction. When they don't, there is no reason for conflict or confrontation.

When grownups, or grownup countries, deal with one another, they understand that it isn't necessary to be pals in order to peacefully coexist.

For all his bellicosity and bluster, I'm quite sure that Trump understands that perfectly well. You think he's never done business with people he didn't necessarily like, as long as the deal benefited both parties.

right, he has Russia's help to win the presidency, what if he had China's help, or Saudi Arabia's help, or Iran's help?

Russia is INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES AND ANNEXING THEM, Georgia under Bush and Crimea under Obama, they are growing the Soviet Union back again, they are being aggressive in the world, and so when they get to Poland, you okay with that? Trump probably is.

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2715 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: Corruption KGB style Reply #16 - 11/11/16 at 12:57:51 Quote: so when they get to Poland, you okay with that? That will not happen. But, to answer your question , yeah I'm fine with that. I don't care. You want to join the Polish expeditionary force and save the world, I wish you all the best.
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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #17 - 11/11/16 at 13:08:54

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/11/16 at 12:43:57:

LostArtist wrote on 11/11/16 at 11:15:37:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/11/16 at 11:07:45:

This is as close as you can get to treason without actually committing it...

While knowing exactly Nothing about what was said.
Trump, not yet with access to information that would be of interest to an enemy, not yet in a position Do anything that would Hurt America or Benefit Russia, is somehow to be criticized, naaay, scorned, a Borderline Treasonous act,,

Well, he is now compromised, HE OWES PUTIN something now. Putin did him a favor, when Putin asks Trump to return that favor... what happens?

You can just Declare that he is compromised, because you want it to be true. You don't Know anything about Anything that was said. Unlike the facts about Saint Hillary, who should be in jail.

But Saint Hillary, putting sensitive information where any sophisticated computer hacker could get it?
No Crime.

I'm no saying that Trump himself committed a crime, but he did encourage Russia to illegally hack Clinton. and they did, so now he owes them

Show me any credible source who says Russia hacked the DNC.
You're not able to remember the guy who was gunned down close to home? Yeah, he was in a position to leak those emails.
The odds are that there were some actual Americans inside the pustule that Is the DNC who leaked information.
The FBI didn't blame Russia. Hillary did, and the Echo Chamber went full retard..

I wouldn't play tiddly winks with a lefty. Zero honor. Zero objectivity. Lie , cheat,steal,whatever it takes to
Pretend they won.
And Cry like babies when they get Told , NO, your ways aren't what We the People are willing to accept Any More.

you keep your tiddly winks to yourself, jeesh, and I thought Trump had a problem....

no, the democrats lost, and they deserved to, Trump really did just flat out out work Clinton, at the very least. But Clinton did still win the majority of the popular vote, and Johnson and Stein got votes too, so, NO Trump doesn't have the support of the majority of Americans.

The dems lost in spite of all the fraud they could muster.
I don't believe the vote tally. I don't think she was near as close as reported.
60 THOUSAND Felons pardoned, so they could go vote.
Dem governor.
Add in the dead, the illegals, the bussed in multi voters,
and she still couldn't get close.
The polls in the early days were pure fiction. An effort to Mold the Dumbmasses minds. Too many people will Vote for Who they Think is gonna win, so they can Feel like THEY are part of the Winning Team. The media tried to create the perception that she had a great following. Clearly, not true.

Arizona went to Trump.
Bot, whoever you hang out with that somehow managed to get you believing that your thinking is the predominant thinking, well, they are apparently Not exactly an accurate representation of the ideological cross section of the state.
Maybe it's more of a local thing, like Austin..
Austin probably voted Bernie and Hillary more than Trump.

of course you don't believe it, of course not, not until one of your shaddowstats websites report it huh?

oh, and she got VERY CLOSE, 68,000 votes in PA, 27,000 votes in Wisconsin, 11,000 votes in Michigan, That's ALL it would have taken, less than 100,000 votes, for a national election, that's pretty close

and you still haven't proven the dead, the illegals, and the bussed in multivoters claim from any reputable source yet, so that's your pure fiction

and yeah, Travis county, which is Austin's county, voted 306,000 to 127,000 for Hillary

and Bot NEVER claimed that Arizona would vote for Clinton, I don't remember him ever saying that his views are the views of his neighbors, that's YOUR problem, not his

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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #18 - 11/11/16 at 13:12:13

oldNslow wrote on 11/11/16 at 12:57:51:

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so when they get to Poland, you okay with that?

That will not happen. But, to answer your question , yeah I'm fine with that. I don't care. You want to join the Polish expeditionary force and save the world, I wish you all the best.

glad to know you like empires, funny that you live in AMERICA, you know, we revolted against an Empire to gain our freedom, sad that you think it's okay for someone else to take away other's freedom, according to you, we should have stayed out of WWI and WWII then

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justin_o_guy2

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #19 - 11/11/16 at 13:45:04

You don't get it, do you?
Check out
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
Look at where WE have military bases.
Look at OUR alleged Defense budget.
Did you happen to notice the list of Sovereign Nations that WE were planning on getting militarily involved in? Check out
General Wesley Clarke list of countries to invade.
TRY to allow the Date that That list was made Public to soak in.
Then, THINK about the Reasons We were given and When the events that occurred that were used to Justify taking the Action that had been
On the drawing board
Since shortly after 9/11.

It's not that you're ignorant, it's just that most of what you know just simply isn't true.

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #20 - 11/11/16 at 15:11:10

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glad to know you like empires, funny that you live in AMERICA, you know, we revolted against an Empire to gain our freedom, sad that you think it's okay for someone else to take away other's freedom, according to you, we should have stayed out of WWI and WWII then

That assertion is, to be blunt, preposterous. You don't have the faintest idea what I think about empires, freedom, WW1, WW2 or the American Revolution. You and I have never discussed those things. However you presume to know what I think about all those subjects based on my opinion that:

1. Putin doesn't have the slightest interest in invading Poland.

2. Even if he did, I'm not worried about it.

3 And I'll add. Given the current state of Russia's economy and the state of readiness of their military, I don't believe that Poland needs to be very worried about it either.

Your arrogance, and your proclivity for making unfounded assumptions, is really quite astonishing.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Corruption KGB style Reply #21 - 11/11/16 at 15:52:37 It's BY hanging attitudes and beliefs on people that he is able to look down on them. By pretending someone is lacking in being good, reasonable, he can then ignore the FACTS they o ffer.
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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: Corruption KGB style Reply #22 - 11/13/16 at 15:59:57 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/11/16 at 15:52:37: It's BY hanging attitudes and beliefs on people that he is able to look down on them. By pretending someone is lacking in being good, reasonable, he can then ignore the FACTS they o ffer. that's what I've learned from you and conservative media
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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #23 - 11/13/16 at 16:20:48

oldNslow wrote on 11/11/16 at 15:11:10:

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glad to know you like empires, funny that you live in AMERICA, you know, we revolted against an Empire to gain our freedom, sad that you think it's okay for someone else to take away other's freedom, according to you, we should have stayed out of WWI and WWII then

That assertion is, to be blunt, preposterous. You don't have the faintest idea what I think about empires, freedom, WW1, WW2 or the American Revolution. You and I have never discussed those things. However you presume to know what I think about all those subjects based on my opinion that:

1. Putin doesn't have the slightest interest in invading Poland.

2. Even if he did, I'm not worried about it.

3 And I'll add. Given the current state of Russia's economy and the state of readiness of their military, I don't believe that Poland needs to be very worried about it either.

Your arrogance, and your proclivity for making unfounded assumptions, is really quite astonishing.

you said it yourself, you are ok with other people losing their freedom.

and if you are ok with that, then I can only assume that you are okay with anyone else losing their freedom, then I extrapolated that out. was that fair of me, probably not, but I imagine that you've been doing the same thing to all liberals for awhile now. I assume you support Trump, and this America First position, that was a real thing back in WWI and WWII also.

oh and "Your arrogance, and your proclivity for making unfounded assumptions, is really quite astonishing." the same to you, you didn't express your reasons for why you weren't worried about Poland, leaving it open for me to assume, nice trap, what goes around comes around

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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #24 - 11/13/16 at 16:29:58

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/11/16 at 13:45:04:

You don't get it, do you?
Check out
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
Look at where WE have military bases.
Look at OUR alleged Defense budget.
Did you happen to notice the list of Sovereign Nations that WE were planning on getting militarily involved in? Check out
General Wesley Clarke list of countries to invade.
TRY to allow the Date that That list was made Public to soak in.
Then, THINK about the Reasons We were given and When the events that occurred that were used to Justify taking the Action that had been
On the drawing board
Since shortly after 9/11.

It's not that you're ignorant, it's just that most of what you know just simply isn't true.

You're not Ronald Reagan.

neither is Trump, Trump isn't going to change anything militarily, he'll increase it just like EVERY, even Obama, president has, Trump want to rule the world through our strength, through fear, and maybe that's necessary, but that does sadden me, I'd rather us lead via example and respect, and maybe that's the dreamer in me

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10392 Minn Gender:	Re: Corruption KGB style Reply #25 - 11/13/16 at 16:52:27 LostArtist wrote on 11/13/16 at 16:29:58: " ... even Obama, president has, Increasing the US Military " even Obama, has " *Ah, NO, he Has Not !*
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LostArtist

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #26 - 11/14/16 at 13:02:22

MnSpring wrote on 11/13/16 at 16:52:27:

LostArtist wrote on 11/13/16 at 16:29:58:

" ... even Obama, president has,

Increasing the US Military

" even Obama, has "

Ah, NO, he Has Not !

you know, what, you're right, I was wrong, not sure why, I always had this impression that the military industrial complex always grew year after year and Obama might have slowed down the growth but didn't really stop it, I still kinda think that since getting out of 2 wars will reduce the number of soldiers needed.

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justin_o_guy2

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Re: Corruption KGB style
Reply #27 - 11/14/16 at 19:09:34

LostArtist wrote on 11/13/16 at 16:29:58:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/11/16 at 13:45:04:

You don't get it, do you?
Check out
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
Look at where WE have military bases.
Look at OUR alleged Defense budget.
Did you happen to notice the list of Sovereign Nations that WE were planning on getting militarily involved in? Check out
General Wesley Clarke list of countries to invade.
TRY to allow the Date that That list was made Public to soak in.
Then, THINK about the Reasons We were given and When the events that occurred that were used to Justify taking the Action that had been
On the drawing board
Since shortly after 9/11.

It's not that you're ignorant, it's just that most of what you know just simply isn't true.

You're not Ronald Reagan.

neither is Trump, Trump isn't going to change anything militarily, he'll increase it just like EVERY, even Obama, president has, Trump want to rule the world through our strength, through fear, and maybe that's necessary, but that does sadden me, I'd rather us lead via example and respect, and maybe that's the dreamer in me

Again, you addressed Nothing.
You WON'T.
But, regardless of the facts, your understanding of the world is based in reason..
Unbelievable.

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