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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #30 - 10/31/16 at 11:41:41
 
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Reply #31 - 10/31/16 at 13:22:01
 
I don't think OF is asking for too much but sadly they don't make it.  The dollar amount is just a matter of age and condition, sooner or later almost all bikes get down to $1500 and less.  The shaft drive does add some weight so I would look for belt or chain.  Now that I'm in my seventh decade I want something that is light.  The old British twins were fairly light, often under 400 lbs wet, and produced decent power and torque with a comfortable upright seating position.

When you consider how light the 390cc KTM is or the new light weight Ducatis and how much power they generate you have to wonder why don't they market something similar for those who enjoy relaxed touring and cruising.  A slightly larger engine for good torque and a similar light weight frame configured for a low seat and a more upright seating position.

I've gotten in the habit of making my own foot peg mounts and seats which helps a lot of the older bikes fit my requirements. 
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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #32 - 10/31/16 at 14:31:52
 
What about a Honda cx500/ 650 ?
Shaft drive
15 " wheel ( C model )
Low seat
100mph
$1500 cheap
Easy maintenance
Parts available
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If you find yourself a 650 turbo you're home and hosed.
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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #33 - 10/31/16 at 14:36:02
 

I sat a CX500 and it had a 30" seat and I was dancing on my tippy toes.   Plus it has all the wet weight heavy issues as well.    So off to the swamp to see the Master I goes .....


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'Ol Yoda was kinda grumpy today and he just said "Riding mower" and force-pushed my arse back on out of his hovel door, back off the path and back on down the hill so that I fell back into the the stinkin' mucky swamp water on the fly .....

..... where I landed on my butt yet again all waist deep in the mucky green sludge yet again.    

Kerplop on my arse yet again.   I hate that stinking swamp -- I really do.    He does this all the time now, ya know.  

Being a Padawan learner to Yoda in his grumpy elder years really sux sometimes, lemme tell ya.

"Riding mower"  likely means an ugly cheap plastic tank you can see through, and since he was looking at the back of my bike at the new rack when he said it, I kinda suppose he thinks I ought to mount there like a hundred and seventy dollar spun aluminum keg tank.

So I went and looked used tanks in the used mower junk listed on E-bone and this is what tickled my Yoda sense a little bit when I first saw it .....  a rectangular $10 plus $8 shipping type used plastic tank.





By tying this vertically to my sissy bar sitting on my new luggage rack, I get to use gravity to "equal balance" the two tanks with a simple hose "T" fitting above my carburetor inlet, with each tank having its own separate filter set up so that one filter screwing up with crap and trash does not stop the other tank from delivering fuel.

They would fill separately, but would move down with use roughly equally, so the back tank is also a readily visible "read at a glance" fuel gauge.   Both tanks will be vented, so heat & pressure shouldn't be moving fuel from one to the other for much.

Eyeballing the tank and the rack horizontal wise, the bottom edges of the two fuel tanks will be very close to being the exact same height, with the aux tank maybe being a half an inch taller than the gas tank cap when judged on the horizontal.

So, I could just have me a black max fill line on the aux tank and fill the normal tank on up normally and not have to screw with anything at all, ever.

Looking 4-5 gallons net capacity at a cost of $18 plus fuel line and hardware.    And I can take it off and put it back on depending on what/where I am going to be doing on that trip.

I shoulda asked 'ol Yoda for some training fund money to buy the stuff,  he surely does like getting some change back from a twenty, he does.

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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #34 - 10/31/16 at 14:57:12
 
If you take a stock petcock, convert it to manual, you'll have every thing you need.

just take the diaphragm out and put the back on w/out sealing the port and connect that to your aux tank.
The line is smaller, but if your tanks are level and drain at the same time, it won't matter.
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Reply #35 - 10/31/16 at 15:09:08
 

I have a manual petcock somewhere, but a plastic "T" fitting in the line does the same job without inviting any of them stock petcock gremlins to come back for a visit .....

Plus, I intend to be able to take it all off at the back, plug the fuel line back at the removed tank junction and just go.   I guess I need to invest in a proper line cut off tap for back there just to make sure off is off ..... instead of fiddling around with a potentially leaking fuel line plug.
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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #36 - 10/31/16 at 17:42:21
 
If you are doing the rear tank....you should install one of the inline valves in the line.  The equalization is fine - except when you park on a hill. or even ride on a long hill like the Cherohala Skyway.  The higher tank could drain all of the contents to the lower tank and make it overflow.

A while back I had an S10 and I plumbed an additional windshield washer pump and some tubing to the truck....and I had a small nozzle at the edge of the tail light.  When somebody was tailgating me, I could squirt water out my tail light.  If I parked with the back of the truck downhill....my tail light would start to dribble and empty the contents of my washer bottle. Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - 10/31/16 at 19:12:31
 

This is true.  

I think by using a relatively "minimum" fuel hose size you can limit the back flow issue from tank to tank during actual riding since the back flow has to go past the consumption draw point and some of it is going to be redirected to the carburetor.   The rate of carburetor consumption would easily be half of the possible rate of transfer, and since the tank to tank transfer reverses direction constantly the net effect might not be too great.  

We shall see, I suspect.

Parking on a hill does not have this consumption effect, so yes a cut off valve would be very nice to have.

Anytime the main fuel tank is higher (or lower) than the top of the sister tank you have a 100% flow back total dribbler mess possible.

I think the cut off could be positioned near the "T" junction (relatively near engine) and placed so it can be found by finger touch while riding.

Placing it near the normal petcock location could allow a muscle memory style turn off routine to become ingrained.

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Reply #38 - 10/31/16 at 19:46:03
 



This is what the feature list came from.
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Reply #39 - 10/31/16 at 21:24:39
 
that reminds me... of a vincent inspired virago.

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Reply #40 - 11/01/16 at 05:06:15
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 10/31/16 at 19:46:03:
This is what the feature list came from.


So I guessed correctly. Do I win the bike?
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Reply #41 - 11/01/16 at 06:35:46
 
In the living room , Very Cool !
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Reply #42 - 11/01/16 at 21:00:55
 
I found a 1/4" in-line shut off at Harbor Freight air tool dept.   Kinda small and cute looking !  Smiley

OldFeller , that Kawasaki 500 Vulcan is belt drive and lots of power ,  You can put short shocks on anything and/or let the front tubes slide up through the triple tree.  Roll Eyes

If you want to try the "Long-Legs" pulley on your Savage , then pick one up on ebay and I'll fix it for ya --- but ya gota slide the rear tire forward almost all the way.   It does : "Make it a totally different bike"

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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #43 - 11/02/16 at 03:50:19
 

I bought a pack of four cutoffs on Amazon, plastic cheapie looking stuff.

We can rig our bikes for more gas, but our kidneys won't change one iota.
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Re: A mid-sized bike for short people
Reply #44 - 11/02/16 at 06:00:29
 
verslagen1 wrote on 10/31/16 at 14:57:12:
If you take a stock petcock, convert it to manual, you'll have every thing you need.

just take the diaphragm out and put the back on w/out sealing the port and connect that to your aux tank.
The line is smaller, but if your tanks are level and drain at the same time, it won't matter.


Now, that is doggone clever..
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