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Reply #60 - 10/31/16 at 18:19:56
 
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Reply #61 - 11/01/16 at 15:15:54
 
That's great! Sometimes a seemingly simple problem can be hard to diagnose.

I'm sure you learned a lot from the experience. Carbs seem to be simple but as we all know can be a bit tricky. Smiley
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Reply #62 - 11/03/16 at 16:31:29
 
Did we forget to mention it might be the float level? Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #63 - 11/03/16 at 19:26:05
 
Yep.  I do believe there was a Suzuki Savage Super Hero that did mention the float level a time or two.  Thanks Batman
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Reply #64 - 11/03/16 at 19:58:00
 
I'll just step up and say
Im shocked..
The description of what it was doing just didn't make me think that was it.
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Reply #65 - 11/03/16 at 22:18:33
 
I still think it was something electrical and fuel related.
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Reply #66 - 11/04/16 at 05:28:18
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/03/16 at 19:58:00:
I'll just step up and say
Im shocked..
The description of what it was doing just didn't make me think that was it.


It was the description of a smell, repeated over time, that was the tip-off. Electrical issues smell once, and then things shut down permanently (when the magic smoke escapes).
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Reply #67 - 11/04/16 at 07:13:06
 
the tipoff for me was wet filter, removing the screen under the float valve,carbon fouled plug ,then wet plug,bike stalling as soon as the throttle came off idle,all can be caused by to high a level in the float bowl.he also had gas in his oil,the bike idled (must have had spark& compression) but stalled when throttle was opened ,what changed?(fuel!) the throttle opens allowing a slug of gas in ,but not enough air to support combustion ,(the slide is just starting to open),bike stalls ,wet plug ,funny smell(unburnt fuel,gas fumes coming from the oil into the air box,or out the muffler?) take your pick.the only other think changed was the jets 52.5/152.5 in the ballpark for sea level.logic ,to me said the only factor that could cause all these things was a flooded float bowl. the final clue,"going down hill the bike seemed like it was running bad but didn't stall " the float is pivoted to the rear of the bowl ,the floats toward the motor ,heading the bike down hill shifted the fuel level forward under the floats causing the float valve to be at it's most closed position,stopping or slowing flow into the bowl dropping the level just enough so that the bike didn't stall.
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Reply #68 - 11/04/16 at 09:54:52
 
I'm really not sure what the cause or cause(s) were for the mystery start-run-die problem.  Since it would sometimes do it and then days would go by where the bike ran perfectly.  I ended up changing out the connector to the coil (I originally used a cheap connector when I installed the tach), I soldering the coil wire in with the battery cable (it was originally crimped in), checked electrical connections and safety switches, battery is new and tests excellent under load.  I had changed the jets and needle spacer a couple months ago and did notice the needle appeared to be slightly bent. And the plug was coming out more black so figured it was running rich.  Changed out the needle, the needle jet (thinking it may have been scared by a bent needle), and moved back down to a 50 pilot jet.  Put it all back together and then it started flooding into the air box.  When I had the carb apart I cleaned everything again including the float valve.  While taking the float out I dropped it, didn't appear like it was damaged, but it let me know it was.  So, I ordered a new float and pin, took the carb apart again installed the new float and pin and it the bike ran perfect.  However, I haven't had a chance to ride the snot out of the bike yet.  This weekend I will.   Smiley

Could the whole problem have been attributed to float level?  Possibly, since I never checked the float until after swapping it out.  Which was the last thing I did.  I'm just glad it's running!  Thanks to everyone that contributed!!
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Reply #69 - 11/04/16 at 18:48:16
 
If you fixed it and fixed it and it kept doing it, it was the Last Fixed it that Fixed it..

And thanks to the folks who explained Why they saw it.
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