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Reply #15 - 10/10/16 at 11:11:33
 
Actually, we all lose, because she got away with the crimes.
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Reply #16 - 10/10/16 at 12:37:10
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 11:06:09:
either way, the REPUBLICAN FBI investigated, NOTHING. Comey found that Hillary was stupid but not CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, he said there would be repercussions if Hillary was still in the position she was but she's now a Civilian so it's hard to enact those repercussions on a civilian.  


Not quite what he said...

Quote:
But even as Comey said the FBI wouldn't recommend charges -- the final decision will be made by the Department of Justice -- he also delivered a scathing verbal indictment of her behavior. Here are seven quotes from Comey on an issue that is sure to reverberate into the fall campaign:
1. "Extremely careless"
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
2. "Should have known"
"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."
3. "Especially concerning"
"None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government -- or even with a commercial email service like Gmail."
4. "Still obligated to protect it"
"Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
5. "Generally lacking"
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is found elsewhere in the government.
6. "Hostile actors"
"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."
7. "Sophisticated adversaries"
"She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."


...wouldn't recommend charges... he would like to remain in office... alive.
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Reply #17 - 10/10/16 at 15:34:16
 
verslagen1 wrote on 10/10/16 at 12:37:10:
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 11:06:09:
either way, the REPUBLICAN FBI investigated, NOTHING. Comey found that Hillary was stupid but not CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, he said there would be repercussions if Hillary was still in the position she was but she's now a Civilian so it's hard to enact those repercussions on a civilian.  


Not quite what he said...

Quote:
But even as Comey said the FBI wouldn't recommend charges -- the final decision will be made by the Department of Justice -- he also delivered a scathing verbal indictment of her behavior. Here are seven quotes from Comey on an issue that is sure to reverberate into the fall campaign:
1. "Extremely careless"
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
2. "Should have known"
"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."
3. "Especially concerning"
"None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government -- or even with a commercial email service like Gmail."
4. "Still obligated to protect it"
"Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
5. "Generally lacking"
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is found elsewhere in the government.
6. "Hostile actors"
"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."
7. "Sophisticated adversaries"
"She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."


...wouldn't recommend charges... he would like to remain in office... alive.


thanks for spelling it all out, still, in sum, = stupid,  not criminal
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Reply #18 - 10/10/16 at 15:45:20
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/10/16 at 08:41:21:
200,000 dead in Iraq?...  .....crickets...
4 dead in Libya?...           .....endless noise...

As Lost said,... Pube's investigated the cr@p out of this for years...
...and,....   ....crickets.... Undecided

Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfy, Condi,... all should be in prison...
200,000 lives on their heads...





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Reply #19 - 10/10/16 at 16:44:56
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 15:34:16:
verslagen1 wrote on 10/10/16 at 12:37:10:
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 11:06:09:
either way, the REPUBLICAN FBI investigated, NOTHING. Comey found that Hillary was stupid but not CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, he said there would be repercussions if Hillary was still in the position she was but she's now a Civilian so it's hard to enact those repercussions on a civilian.  


Not quite what he said...

Quote:
But even as Comey said the FBI wouldn't recommend charges -- the final decision will be made by the Department of Justice -- he also delivered a scathing verbal indictment of her behavior. Here are seven quotes from Comey on an issue that is sure to reverberate into the fall campaign:
1. "Extremely careless"
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
2. "Should have known"
"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."
3. "Especially concerning"
"None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government -- or even with a commercial email service like Gmail."
4. "Still obligated to protect it"
"Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
5. "Generally lacking"
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is found elsewhere in the government.
6. "Hostile actors"
"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."
7. "Sophisticated adversaries"
"She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."


...wouldn't recommend charges... he would like to remain in office... alive.


thanks for spelling it all out, still, in sum, = stupid,  not criminal


She had years in DC. It was her JOB to know the difference.
I say criminal,you say

Stupid...
And Vote FOR stupid for president.

Do be aware that Comey STATED
Anyone caught in the same position couldn't expect to Not be prosecuted.
IF people are able,
They should try  to understand that what he was SAYING WAS
if she wasn't Hillary Clinton she would be in court.
You're celebrating a double standard.
You're CELEBRATING a double standard that makes all Americans serfs.
But, it's your side winning, so it's okay.
Where are you buying your blinders?
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Reply #20 - 10/10/16 at 17:04:30
 
Look what I started......... For the record love this forum, good bunch of guys.  The part that gets me is this if anyone on this forum did this we would be in prison. Now referring to the emails.  
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Reply #21 - 10/10/16 at 17:09:32
 
You didn't start anything. It's been the same game forever.
anyone else would be in jail, others have done less and are in prison.
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Reply #22 - 10/10/16 at 17:17:10
 
She spoke publicly in favor of NAFTA when her husband negotiated it as president, but when it arose as an issue during the 2008 presidential campaign, she backpeddled, calling it a “mistake.”


Stupid seems to be her style.
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Reply #23 - 10/10/16 at 18:23:41
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/10/16 at 17:17:10:
She spoke publicly in favor of NAFTA when her husband negotiated it as president, but when it arose as an issue during the 2008 presidential campaign, she backpeddled, calling it a “mistake.”


Stupid seems to be her style.



yeah, because Trump has haver gone back and revised his position on anything...  nah, never....
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Reply #24 - 10/10/16 at 18:33:16
 
Well, anyone who supported NAFTA was either, being generous, stupid, or, being a Globalist and working against American interests, a traitor. I was against NAFTA, it was no difficult decision.
Anyone who supported NAFTA really needs to sit down and think about why. Anyone who supported it didn't understand how things work. Or, wanted to wreck us.
Everyone makes mistakes, Everyone changes their
Mind on things.
But NAFTA was clearly and obviously poison,

Now run back and tell me about the bubs who wrote it.
And then let's study the immediate support and signing into law such a huge policy change, written by bubs, yet, supported and endorsed by Clinton, and LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE.

Lets elect the MOTS candidate.. yeeeeaaahhh...
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Reply #25 - 10/10/16 at 18:43:34
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 18:23:41:
"yeah, because Trump has haver gone back and revised his position on anything...  nah, never...."  


Of Course,  Clinton, has  NEVER, reversed, HER,  position, on:
Gay Rights, Abortion, Immigrants, Borders,  Trade Deals, Manufacturing Deals, Gun Control,  The DOJ or EPA, The AJ, Banking, Wall Street, Bail Outs, War,  etc.  etc., etc., ...

And  NEVER, has she,  Spoke from  BOTH, sides of her mouth, when talking to the, 'voters', and her, 'contributors'.

NOP,  Never.   Just Ask CNN,  They will TELL YOU,  what to say !

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Reply #26 - 10/10/16 at 19:04:55
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/10/16 at 16:44:56:
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 15:34:16:
verslagen1 wrote on 10/10/16 at 12:37:10:
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 11:06:09:
either way, the REPUBLICAN FBI investigated, NOTHING. Comey found that Hillary was stupid but not CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, he said there would be repercussions if Hillary was still in the position she was but she's now a Civilian so it's hard to enact those repercussions on a civilian.  


Not quite what he said...

Quote:
But even as Comey said the FBI wouldn't recommend charges -- the final decision will be made by the Department of Justice -- he also delivered a scathing verbal indictment of her behavior. Here are seven quotes from Comey on an issue that is sure to reverberate into the fall campaign:
1. "Extremely careless"
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
2. "Should have known"
"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."
3. "Especially concerning"
"None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government -- or even with a commercial email service like Gmail."
4. "Still obligated to protect it"
"Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
5. "Generally lacking"
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is found elsewhere in the government.
6. "Hostile actors"
"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."
7. "Sophisticated adversaries"
"She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."


...wouldn't recommend charges... he would like to remain in office... alive.


thanks for spelling it all out, still, in sum, = stupid,  not criminal


She had years in DC. It was her JOB to know the difference.
I say criminal,you say

Stupid...
And Vote FOR stupid for president.

Do be aware that Comey STATED
Anyone caught in the same position couldn't expect to Not be prosecuted.
IF people are able,
They should try  to understand that what he was SAYING WAS
if she wasn't Hillary Clinton she would be in court.
You're celebrating a double standard.
You're CELEBRATING a double standard that makes all Americans serfs.
But, it's your side winning, so it's okay.
Where are you buying your blinders?



first, Clinton isn't MY side.  

I vote all across the spectrum, Libertarian, Republican, Democrat, it really does quite vary

Comey actually said: consequences, not prosecution.  "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."




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Reply #27 - 10/10/16 at 19:07:15
 
MnSpring wrote on 10/10/16 at 18:43:34:
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 18:23:41:
"yeah, because Trump has haver gone back and revised his position on anything...  nah, never...."  


Of Course,  Clinton, has  NEVER, reversed, HER,  position, on:
Gay Rights, Abortion, Immigrants, Borders,  Trade Deals, Manufacturing Deals, Gun Control,  The DOJ or EPA, The AJ, Banking, Wall Street, Bail Outs, War,  etc.  etc., etc., ...

And  NEVER, has she,  Spoke from  BOTH, sides of her mouth, when talking to the, 'voters', and her, 'contributors'.

NOP,  Never.   Just Ask CNN,  They will TELL YOU,  what to say !




I'm not the one saying that people shouldn't revise their positions, I'm glad Trump has revised his position of a Muslim ban, down to "extreme" vetting.

I don't have a problem with people changing their positions, but if you use that a reason not to like someone and then the person YOU DO like does that exact thing... um,  you're the one with the problem
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Reply #28 - 10/10/16 at 19:08:56
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/10/16 at 18:33:16:
Well, anyone who supported NAFTA was either, being generous, stupid, or, being a Globalist and working against American interests, a traitor. I was against NAFTA, it was no difficult decision.
Anyone who supported NAFTA really needs to sit down and think about why. Anyone who supported it didn't understand how things work. Or, wanted to wreck us.
Everyone makes mistakes, Everyone changes their
Mind on things.
But NAFTA was clearly and obviously poison,

Now run back and tell me about the bubs who wrote it.
And then let's study the immediate support and signing into law such a huge policy change, written by bubs, yet, supported and endorsed by Clinton, and LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE.

Lets elect the MOTS candidate.. yeeeeaaahhh...


bubs are the ones that overwhelmingly support these kinds of Free Trade deals, something about encouraging the Free market forces to work.... you should be familiar with all that, I'm sure you are.  
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Reply #29 - 10/10/16 at 19:18:18
 
LostArtist wrote on 10/10/16 at 19:07:15:
" I'm not the one saying that people shouldn't revise their positions, ... "

YEA, YOU DID !!!!!

Pick One.   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PAY,  MORE,'Taxes', to just put in a, 'Personal  Pocket'.
Or  Stand up for, "FREEDOM".


PICK ONE !

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