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Can you really be a liberal?
10/03/16 at 07:57:16
 
What criteria would one have to exhibit?
Tolerance, acceptance, of others?
Are their any absolutes?
Judging?
Retaliations?
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Reply #1 - 10/03/16 at 08:08:28
 
raydawg wrote on 10/03/16 at 07:57:16:
Are their any absolutes?


Why yes of course, hatred for conservative ideals, Christianity, caucasian people, males, capitalism, free markets, and anything that may be associated or construed to the items previously listed.

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Reply #2 - 10/03/16 at 09:30:34
 
Hatred?

I wonder if that is over used, like racist, is?

Yes, folks get emotional, demostrative, passionate, etc....
But I am not sure it hate....
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Reply #4 - 10/03/16 at 13:46:47
 
Oh Steve I get that, which is sorta why I asked the question.
I see Lost Artist posting accusatory remarks based on pretty shallow reasoning, if all he has is a message board and talking points parroted off other belief commonality sites, as if that is the holy grail.

So, I am wondering if a liberal, of which Bot accused me, flippantly, or in jest, what that criteria might be.

In my own life experience I have seen "liberals" push back in ugly ways and behaviors more than conservatives, but hey, it could be because I am perceived as a white entitled male, well, that is, if I dare oppose or raise questions about their beliefs....

It's just odd, like the emperor didn't see he was nekked, and I was hoping to get some feedback from "them".
But I guess you'll have to suffice  Grin
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Reply #5 - 10/03/16 at 15:06:10
 
One must require perpetual societal change. There is no
Finished. No Done. No Goal Line. Just fuss and worry.
Someone nailed it last week,
If a conservative doesn't like something, they avoid it.
If a leverage doesn't like something, they want a law against it.
If a conservative likes something, he does it.
If a liberal likes something, they want a law to make it mandatory.
Now that's how they are.
Gonna keep you safe and happy whether you want it or not.
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raydawg wrote on 10/03/16 at 09:30:34:
Hatred?


Perhaps intolerable resentment....

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Reply #7 - 10/03/16 at 17:10:21
 
ha·tred
ˈhātrəd/
noun
intense dislike or ill will.
"racial hatred"
synonyms:      loathing, hate, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration; More


Face it. The left have hatred in their hearts for people like me.
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Reply #8 - 10/04/16 at 07:53:47
 
pg wrote on 10/03/16 at 08:08:28:
raydawg wrote on 10/03/16 at 07:57:16:
Are their any absolutes?


Why yes of course, hatred for conservative ideals, Christianity, caucasian people, males, capitalism, free markets, and anything that may be associated or construed to the items previously listed.

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pretty sad if youre serious

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Reply #9 - 10/04/16 at 09:27:50
 
Liberals see government as a pooling of our resources for the benefit of us all...  
We want our money to be spent wisely, and to make America a better place...

Conservatives see government as the enemy... and revenues as theft...
The problem Conservatives have is electing people to do jobs that they despise, and a government that they hate...
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Reply #10 - 10/04/16 at 09:42:36
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/03/16 at 15:06:10:
One must require perpetual societal change. There is no
Finished. No Done. No Goal Line. Just fuss and worry.
Someone nailed it last week,
If a conservative doesn't like something, they avoid it.
If a leverage doesn't like something, they want a law against it.
If a conservative likes something, he does it.
If a liberal likes something, they want a law to make it mandatory.
Now that's how they are.
Gonna keep you safe and happy whether you want it or not.



what??


conservatives don't like gay relationships or gay marriage or taxes , etc.... and they are CONSTANTLY fighting to change those laws, they don't simply avoid it, conservatives don't like protests, they actively use their media pundits to speak out against protests, they want to outlaw freedom of speech by outlawing flag burning and other disrespectful/unpatriotic acts. I could go on...

now, liberals do some of the same, but usually they are fighting to EXPAND rights, not take them away

and your last two are much the same, conservatives LIKE Christian displays of holiday seasons and interpret the laws to protect those displays, they want to mandate "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays"

there's just as much whining and complaining by conservatives as there is by liberals

the difference isn't liberal or conservative, it's authoritarian/totalitarian vs libertarian

you just see it the other way because you're so far conservative



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Reply #11 - 10/04/16 at 09:43:26
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/03/16 at 17:10:21:
ha·tred
ˈhātrəd/
noun
intense dislike or ill will.
"racial hatred"
synonyms:      loathing, hate, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration; More


Face it. The left have hatred in their hearts for people like me.



and you have hatred in YOUR heart for people like Hillary Clinton
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Yep.. a despicable creature.
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justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/04/16 at 09:51:47:
Yep.. a despicable creature.

yes Donald is
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Reply #14 - 10/04/16 at 10:08:33
 
raydawg wrote on 10/03/16 at 13:46:47:
Oh Steve I get that, which is sorta why I asked the question.
I see Lost Artist posting accusatory remarks based on pretty shallow reasoning, if all he has is a message board and talking points parroted off other belief commonality sites, as if that is the holy grail.

So, I am wondering if a liberal, of which Bot accused me, flippantly, or in jest, what that criteria might be.

In my own life experience I have seen "liberals" push back in ugly ways and behaviors more than conservatives, but hey, it could be because I am perceived as a white entitled male, well, that is, if I dare oppose or raise questions about their beliefs....

It's just odd, like the emperor didn't see he was nekked, and I was hoping to get some feedback from "them".
But I guess you'll have to suffice  Grin



I moved from a fairly conservative area of Pennsylvania, it was the middle of the state, far away from Liberal Philadelphia and the various cities, I lived in farm country. Hunting, fishing, growing a garden, country living. Fairly conservative, and as a teenager I leaned a bit against that to the left, but still what most city liberals would consider conservative. and I AM STILL that MODERATE, but I moved to Texas

I moved to one of the top 4 conservative counties in Texas. I started listening to conservative radio, all that was around that wasn't music or sports, I started listening to Fox TV radio at work, it's like a train wreck, I just can't look away. the sheer bias this media portrays...  it's clear as day to a MODERATE, but the people around me, Texans, super super super conservative, nothing like them in PA, even where I am from, if you exhibit one iota of liberal thinking you are ostracized here that I'm afraid to even ask for help if I ever need it from my neighbors and again, I'm Modearate, I lean a bit left but more on libertarian issues than anything else,

so that's MY LIFE experience. I moved to Texas during Bush years so politics was really kinda quiet, cause if anything was wrong you'd end up blaming Bush, not only a conservative, but also a Texan, so people just kept their heads down (in the sand maybe) and didn't voice any objections if they had any, then Obama, a black, Northern Liberal commie Kenyan got into office and the complaining and whining and twisting in the wind over him hasn't stopped, ever, not for one dang day. they yelled about his backdrops, his suits, how flies flew around him, how he saluted or didn't salute as he got off his plane, they picked him apart for 8 years, over every little thing, not to mention the big things, dear God, I haven't heard such a bunch of cry babies in my entire life.

Now I imagine the reverse is opposite if you life in NYC or any city really.

So the distortion of our environments IS REAL. There is no substance being discussed, only personality conflicts and faults. Shallow reasoning ONLY.

the reality is people LOVE complaining, as long as it doesn't have any connection to themselves. You only hear what you want to hear, You blame Obama for not getting anything done, IGNORING that the republican congress has NEVER worked with him ever on anything, they started out directly antagonistic, stating plainly that there primary goal was to make sure that Obama was a one term president and that without Congress the President has limited powers.

so go ahead, call me shallow, just know that I see you the same way, we all need to get out of our echo chambers sometimes, I live in an entire state outside my comfort zone, what do you do to challenge your beliefs???  

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