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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6133 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	gun controll 09/23/16 at 12:40:09 dons lie is Hillary wants to repeal the 2nd amendment if fact she wants to take reasonable measures to keep guns out of the wrong hands
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Re: gun controll
Reply #1 - 09/23/16 at 13:32:47

We don't enforce laws now, more laws?
You can lie to a judge.
You can say I don't remember.
You can say it wasn't my intent.
You can say I didn't know it was loaded.
Or, I had no idea, I thought everyone else does.....
Or, what difference does it make now.

You expect either of these two will deal with any issues other than their bank account....
Sure, and I bet you think Anthony Weiner was set up too, eh slugger Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - 09/23/16 at 13:37:24

Technically, yes she is. It may be a limited take-away at this point in time, but she is working it incremental.
She says she wants to ban assault weapons... isn't that a gun grab?
She doesn't agree with the SC on Heller... That's given the right of gun ownership across the country and you're going to say that's not a gun grab either?
And all she's got to do is stack the SC with judges on the democrat side.

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They say this even though Hillary Clinton said the Supreme Court got it “wrong on the Second Amendment.” When she said this Hillary must have been talking about the Heller and McDonald (2010) decisions. Both were 5-4 rulings by the Supreme Court. In Heller, the Court determined that the Second Amendment is indeed an individual right. In McDonald, the Court ruled that the individual right to bear arms also restricts state and local governments (not just the federal government). If Hillary thinks the high court got it wrong on these basic questions about the U.S. Bill of Rights, then she clearly would nominate Supreme Court justices who would agree with the minority opinions in both of those rulings. Both of those minority opinions argued vociferously that there is no individual right to bear arms. If a future Supreme Court rules that way then the Second Amendment will be gutted of meaning, or as Donald Trump says, “Abolished.”

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: gun controll Reply #3 - 09/23/16 at 13:58:44 Every time she says Muslim Terrorists she always follows it with The constitution guarantees the right of the People to keep and bear arms.
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Dagillespi Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 94 NW Pennsylvania Gender:	Re: gun controll Reply #4 - 09/23/16 at 17:26:13 Banning weapons is possible, taking them never. This is the US 80% of military and law enforcement who would be tasked with retrieving said weapons it would just never work.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: gun controll Reply #5 - 09/23/16 at 17:30:59 How many states is it illegal or perhaps a felony to have a magazine that holds 10 or more? Interestingly enough, about 10 states allow constitutional carry as well. Best regards,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: gun controll Reply #6 - 09/23/16 at 17:47:55 They banned Drugs decades ago. Just about anyone can build a single shot gun. Drugs Banned everywhere Available everywhere But idiots believe guns will suddenly stop killing people if they are banned. Nobody overdoses now that drugs are banned. Idiots.
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Re: gun controll
Reply #7 - 09/23/16 at 19:19:45

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/23/16 at 17:47:55:

They banned Drugs decades ago.
Just about anyone can build a single shot gun.
Drugs
Banned everywhere
Available everywhere
But idiots believe guns will suddenly stop killing people if they are banned.
Nobody overdoses now that drugs are banned.
Idiots.

short of banning guns, do you have a problem with any and all regulation on guns too? in your eyes it should be free for all? Bazookas on sale at every corner newsstand?

or can you see the logic in having some sensible controls that yes, they won't stop every gang banger shoot out, but they might stop a domestic dispute from getting deadly, or might stop papa from giving his crazy nephew a gun because that gun is registered in papa's name and whatever happens with it is traceable to papa, etc....

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Re: gun controll
Reply #8 - 09/23/16 at 19:36:55

LostArtist wrote on 09/23/16 at 19:19:45:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/23/16 at 17:47:55:

They banned Drugs decades ago.
Just about anyone can build a single shot gun.
Drugs
Banned everywhere
Available everywhere
But idiots believe guns will suddenly stop killing people if they are banned.
Nobody overdoses now that drugs are banned.
Idiots.

short of banning guns, do you have a problem with any and all regulation on guns too? in your eyes it should be free for all? Bazookas on sale at every corner newsstand?

or can you see the logic in having some sensible controls that yes, they won't stop every gang banger shoot out, but they might stop a domestic dispute from getting deadly, or might stop papa from giving his crazy nephew a gun because that gun is registered in papa's name and whatever happens with it is traceable to papa, etc....

Here, answer this L A.....

Do criminal obey laws?

As to your other references, what about papa's booze and car keys?
You going after him for that too?

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Re: gun controll
Reply #9 - 09/23/16 at 19:56:29

raydawg wrote on 09/23/16 at 19:36:55:

LostArtist wrote on 09/23/16 at 19:19:45:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/23/16 at 17:47:55:

They banned Drugs decades ago.
Just about anyone can build a single shot gun.
Drugs
Banned everywhere
Available everywhere
But idiots believe guns will suddenly stop killing people if they are banned.
Nobody overdoses now that drugs are banned.
Idiots.

short of banning guns, do you have a problem with any and all regulation on guns too? in your eyes it should be free for all? Bazookas on sale at every corner newsstand?

or can you see the logic in having some sensible controls that yes, they won't stop every gang banger shoot out, but they might stop a domestic dispute from getting deadly, or might stop papa from giving his crazy nephew a gun because that gun is registered in papa's name and whatever happens with it is traceable to papa, etc....

Here, answer this L A.....

Do criminal obey laws?

As to your other references, what about papa's booze and car keys?
You going after him for that too?

but there ARE laws about papa's booze and car keys ...

and what about FIRST time criminals, there can be more deterrent for them that could be convincing to not do the act, otherwise, why have ANY laws at all?

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Re: gun controll
Reply #10 - 09/23/16 at 21:10:47

Not any laws, but more laws...

Is it too late if junior steals pa's booze and crashes his stolen car?

Did we spare the rod, in order to be friends with our kids?

Did we relax the tools of shaming, and consequences, opting instead to try and make junior feel good about himself and his less than perfect behavior?

More laws after the first law failed because we don't enforce with punishment and consequences will all of a sudden, work?

How?

Why are we going after law abiding folk, infringing on their constitutional rights, instead of going after the cause?

Let's take away pa's booze then....

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28722 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: gun controll Reply #11 - 09/23/16 at 22:21:28 Let's legalize murder... criminals don't follow the law anyway...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: gun controll Reply #12 - 09/23/16 at 23:34:47 Before we start bouncing around what restrictions we want Let's establish what the second amendment is and WHY it was included. I'm not arguing it. I will wait on the gun control crowd to explain it. I've made the point countless times. So, if you support gun control, explain why the second amendment exists.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: gun controll Reply #13 - 09/24/16 at 04:43:01 Serowbot wrote on 09/23/16 at 22:21:28: Let's legalize murder... criminals don't follow the law anyway... 5 minute clip of a home invasion and the good guys won! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPASE8MsldE One of them checked-out on the driveway. Best regards,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: gun controll Reply #14 - 09/24/16 at 06:51:24 Serowbot wrote on 09/23/16 at 22:21:28: Let's legalize murder... criminals don't follow the law anyway... Done! Roe V. Wade
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