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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1163 Denver, CO Gender:	650 singles going away? 09/20/16 at 14:32:49 This came up in my daily Google Newsstand feed. It's specific to dual sports but interesting factoid (?) about how the big cylinders deform when they heat up which is what causes oil to burn. http://canadamotoguide.com/2016/09/19/the-end-of-big-single-cylinder-thumpers/
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gizzo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiCabbage. It's Savage. Posts: 1318 Australia	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #1 - 09/20/16 at 15:23:52 I guess 1200cc + twins ars in strife too, then...I look forward to the new Indian/ Harley/ etc 1600cc V12.
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Reply #2 - 09/20/16 at 15:37:42

Tocsik wrote on 09/20/16 at 14:32:49:

It's specific to dual sports but interesting factoid (?) about how the big cylinders deform when they heat up which is what causes oil to burn.

http://watt-man.com/uploads/TB_FAQ.pdf

This guy created a by-pass that maintains the engine temperature at the optimum level. It is supposed to work very well...

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #3 - 09/20/16 at 15:48:29 I guess the first 900 or so miles my engine didn't get warm enough to deform and use oil. Finally had to add oil the other day.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28661 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #4 - 09/20/16 at 16:17:16 No reason they couldn't drop it down to a 500 and keep the power we have... Heck,.. they could even add a little...
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Reply #5 - 09/21/16 at 01:07:13

Yep, Bot...with a good head/engine design and EFI, there is no reason a 400 - 500 cc engine couldn't make more than the measly 30 HP we play with (my 250 Ninja makes the same HP as the stock Savage engine). What will change....is the low end torque that we currently enjoy. The smaller engine will have to be wound up a bit more for things to happen.

A 250 dual sport is fine in the dirt and back roads - it just doesn't have enough power to be a highway commuter or touring bike. I do believe a 400 - 500 dual sport could be highway worthy.

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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1417 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #6 - 09/21/16 at 02:11:07 wasn't I a smart lad to buy a second one!
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10667 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #7 - 09/21/16 at 03:15:30 Should I hold on to the 3 1/2 I have now ? If Suzuki stopped making them there might be a mad rush for them, driving prices through the roof, then I could sell a couple and retire ! 😄✌️😎
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5107 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #8 - 09/21/16 at 15:04:57 You like cat food , don't you
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #9 - 09/21/16 at 15:40:30 Ha! A lot You know! Cat food is a lot more expensive than dog food.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #10 - 09/22/16 at 03:47:13 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/21/16 at 15:40:30: Ha! A lot You know! Cat food is a lot more expensive than dog food. And the cans are smaller. (Be sure to get the cans that include the snap on plastic lid - so you can save some for later).
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Reply #11 - 09/22/16 at 06:55:15

True story,

I was working in a convenience store in Odessa Texas. Not the best part of town. Three old guys came in every day and bought a loaf of bread and a can of Alpo. I was so dumb,,, I asked the lady I worked with why would they have a dog. Then, when she told me they were eating it, I started paying for their stuff, so they could save money, and hopefully do better.

In two days every skid row bum in the county was coming to that store. I stopped paying.. and everything went back to a comfortable chaos.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10667 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #12 - 09/22/16 at 07:27:52 Sometimes you gotta just let things be.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5107 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #13 - 09/22/16 at 10:07:04 No good deed goes unpunished ! Sad but true !
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 650 singles going away? Reply #14 - 09/22/16 at 10:44:14 LANCER wrote on 09/22/16 at 07:27:52: Sometimes you gotta just let things be. So true. Stifling the I SHOULD is hard. The knee-jerk reaction may not be the wise way.
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