I agree, to a point.
There are Card Carrying Cheerleaders for both alleged Sides, regardless of the Fact that neither side ever repeals Anything their alleged Opponents did. It's those who Aren't gut hooked, sold out, blind to the offenses of the lying treasonous leaders of the parties who can sway an election, Providing the election is not rigged.
As for
Nobody wants to solve problems,
The people are not even in agreement on What the problems Are.
The left seem to be focused on what it looks like.
We MUST import refugees, else we appear callous and unFeeling.
Never mind that they are guaranteed to commit acts ranging from rape and murder to outright terrorism..
The Right seem to believe we need to invade places.

We are hemorrhaging money and jobs, homelessness grows,our electeds are not representing the People, and people are tired of it.
Our farmers have been crushed out of business, into the bigger and bigger farms, and the food isn't as good.
Beef producers are being done the same way. And the biggest among all of it? They get subsidies.
The trade deals have Hurt America.
But nobody changes anything.

The only hope I see is SOMEONE who ISN'T a part of that ongoing systematic pattern of governmental abuse of the people.
Hillary is a piece of that system.
Never Hillary.

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I used to believe that. I no longer do.  

It's about the numbers. And the numbers are headed in the wrong direction.

LostArtist wrote on 09/12/16 at 19:31:32:

 let's be fair, no one is interested in solving the issues. ..."

See,  THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM !!!!!!!

I have a Good Friend, who is completely, OPPOSITE,
(Politically)  than I am.

BUT, when we sit down on the back porch, and discuss things.
We  COME TO Agreement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Each giving and taking)

So the problem is, the,  'Politicians', do  NOT   DO  what,  'WE" Tell them to do !!!!!!!!!!!

The, Politicians,  do NOT  Pay you,
  YOU  Pay them.  (And hire and fire them)

When you start in YOUR, Town, Township, County, State.
You will not have to tell,  the Federal representatives.
They will have, LEARNED.

YOU, hire and fire them,  YOU, Pay  THEIR  Wages !!!!!!!!

Well of course if someone can not see a problem,
with a, LAW, that allows a  MAN, to go into a  Girls, Bathroom.
Or a  LAW, that a business person, HAS to sell the thing they make.
Or a  LAW, that someone can  ONLY, fly a certain flag.
OR a person, has to STOP, selling a certain Meat product.
Or a person, stop using/buying, a thing, because 'They' don't like it.

ANY,   REASONABLE Person, can clearly see, those things are wrong.

When the, FACTS, are explained.
Facts,  NOT, 'made up crap', or, 'spun crap', by a one sided Media.

And if they cant see, the, 'FACTS',   Guess they will vote for Hitelery.

That's the point, we would sit down, and each, would 'give and take', so it became, Reasonable.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/13/16 at 19:56:45:


But those who you are arguing with, if they won't give, either, for the very same reason, are they stiff-necked?

I understand the context/problems, are different, depending on circumstance, as too many cook in the kitchen, and the customers will most likely starve, for lack of service  

But do you not see you are just as responsible for this stalemate as they are?

Yes, I know you feel more open-minded, and I believe you feel you will change, if proven your reasoning fails, but dude, I'm sorry, I can't recall any exchange here like that, you might example for me.

Got one?

n_o_guy2 wrote on Today at 03:56:45:
Unless someone can explain WHY my position is less than correct, I can't
Give.


I'm able to offer reasons for what I believe.
I've Shown that. Not something nebulous, because it's Right, it feels good crap, but I've been posting titles to books and links to information that are from solid sources.

I posted a link and included an excerpt from an article that put a  good number of historical figures together, presidents, generals, captains of industry, all saying that they believe that there is a dark force, a group of people determined to undermine America, and how many here gave it a thought?
Did anyone who didn't already agree even read i t?

The statement that
Nobody wants to solve the problems
Is all too true. Unless people are willing to see that, unless they have reached into places NOT generally looked at, if what they believe is based in information that is widely available, in newspapers or the news on TV, in school, then they are less than informed and often, intentionally Misinformed.

They lied to us, intentionally, to manufacture consent to invade Iraq.

They threw the BayBees on the cold hard floor.
The WMDs!

Now, you people can continue to wrestle with each other over details about what America should and shouldn't be, but if we continue to allow policy to be made by the members of the globalist think tanks, we are not going to be America except for the name of the area on the globe.
Since JFK, we've seen the presidential advisors and cabinet members start to be members of the same groups.
The once upon a time anti war democrats are not anti-war today.
Hillary can joke about the brutal murder of a man,, a man who deserved to die, WHY?

That's a real question.
I'm wanting an answer.
I don't Know the answer,
But, surely someone who supports Hillary does.
Or, everyone who thinks she's good has at least one Big question mark in their gut,,

How can she call killing him GOOD? What did he do to deserve to die?
And So brutally, a bayonet up his butt, how HORRIBLE,  

I have the tools to offer. Those who don't want to solve the problems ignore what is not something they want to believe.
I didn't START life believing what I do.
I , at 18, was a democrat.