raydawg wrote on 08/30/16 at 20:24:25:


did I say with ONLY the support of right wing crazies??  

No, I did not. but thanks for reading into my post to serve your own goals to discredit me.

Jerry E. has lost a ton of my respect,  I"m giving him the benefit of the doubt that because he is so PRO business, he believes that a Business person is best suited to running the country, I'd vehemently disagree with him on that and beyond that, could he at least support a really successful business person, like Carly Fiorina?  Trump is only successful because he's a train wreck that is entertaining, it's more like supporting a celebrity than a business person.

I don't even think JOG is crazy, he's just desperate for a change and he thinks Trump is his best hope for it, it's a LONG LONG shot at best JOG.

the reality is that both JOG and Jerry E. are hard core dedicated REPUBLICANS, the republicans could run a Pauly Shore and they'd vote straight ticket Republican. And because of the demonization of Hillary, a lot of Trump supporters are just anti-Hillary, instead of taking this opportunity to send a message to BOTH political parties and vote 3rd party, they either want to win, or believe that voting their actual conscious is somehow a vote for the other main party candidate.  

don't forget, your singlemindedness is what led me to answer as such. after all, it was YOU that said "Dude, the only thing, and I mean ONLY THING, that makes sense to me, in explaining Trump being where he is, the finalist of the repub party, is that the Clinton Machine orchestrated it."

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/16 at 05:46:04:



TIME DOESN'T GO BACKWARDS. what kinda crap answer is this?

the economies of Europe, China, Brazil, India, Mexico, etc.... have all changed since yesterday, THERE IS NO GETTING THAT "ECONOMY OF YESTERDAY" BACK.  you can't FIX other countries successes to suit your desire for yesterday's policies that don't work today because everything around them has CHANGED.

You can't fix your screw up because all the conditions around it have changed.

adopting yesterday's policies will only HURT us, because the rest of the world is already embracing tomorrow

now if you want fair business practices for all over the world ....   doesn't that make you for one world government?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/16 at 15:40:46:



Dude,

I agree with this "Seems to me that changing economic and political and social environments would
REQUIRE looking back at decision-making and policies, to address the changing times."  but as long as it's LOOKING FORWARD, to do what's right for the future, not to do what WAS right for 60 years ago.

learning from past mistakes is key, but it's key that you learn a LESSON and not learn a behavior. voting is a behavior. otherwise looking back is just playing a blame game.

cause if you look at your list, there are lots of Democrats that would agree with you on all those topics.

oh, and what cliff???

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/16 at 19:49:01:


Debt is a bit concerning but only a bit, people have been complaining about it since Reagan all but Doubled it (yeah, it's happened before Obama)

The Wars suck but we'er in them fro the long haul now, and, regardless of record, I think Clinton will keep us out of more and Trump will get us in at least 2 more and falsely declare victory

Unemployment is fine, it's like 5%  Underemployment and those that have stopped looking, well, there are multiple reasons for that so it's really hard to judge how much that really means, since it's never been used before to judge economic strength

The Boston Marathon bombers are the only imported terrorists so far, the rest were HOME GROWN.  

Your cliff looks like a mild decline now.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/16 at 20:42:08:



Things are okay here, actually looking up, 2017 is going to be a good year.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/01/16 at 02:36:44:


Jog, I raised 4 children. All are successful and free of baggage.
One of my sons just plopped down 650k on a house in SoCal....
Goodness, I asked him where he got that scratch, he said dad, we are doing ok.....
I guess so.
Anyway, back to my point before this old mind wandered....

All of them were 2 years old once, for a whole year.

I learned to just say something once, then just listen to them.

It worked great.  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/01/16 at 02:36:44:



they are only far from accurate if you include those that have stopped looking for work. WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN INCLUDED BEFORE, but I guess Obama is special again

So, you can come in hollering about the unemployment numbers, saying it's about 5%, and THAT IS A LOAD,
But, MY source is
Unreliable..

But YOURS wasn't?
What kinda chikienshitt is that?