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Reply #15 - 08/26/16 at 18:59:25
 
Well, yeah, it is funny, but it's not a joke.
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Reply #16 - 08/26/16 at 19:04:52
 
I'm getting a headache.
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Reply #17 - 08/26/16 at 19:53:33
 
Try not to laugh so hard.
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Reply #18 - 08/26/16 at 19:54:33
 
When Honda came out with the V-4 500cc 4 valve motors, the valve adjusters were microscopic. They sent out a service bulletin about proper torque of the locknuts because people were either stripping them, or they'd buzz off at the zillion RPM redline. At service school we had to go through the ritual of doing them right.
Justin is right. Just thread a piece of scrap, put a bolt in there, and tighten with a torque wrench. You'll have a pretty god idea how tight to make it.
Had an Airhead on the lift a few weeks ago that the owner complained was running poorly. Removed the valve covers and in each one was the locknut from the intake adjuster. And the adjuster had backed off to about 1/4" gap.
Holy crap.
I always keep a spare set of new adjusters and locknuts in stock for that kind of situation.
There is medication available for the kind of anxiety you describe.
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Reply #19 - 08/26/16 at 20:27:45
 
Ut oh !

You did what ?

Gotta learn sometime.

Gotta a manual & bible ?
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Reply #20 - 08/26/16 at 20:35:59
 
You wouldn't believe how many hours I spent on that silly little valve job. Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - 08/26/16 at 20:44:01
 
Yes I would!
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Reply #22 - 08/26/16 at 20:57:19
 
We're not talking about doing it like everyone else... in the frame. No... I did it with the engine sitting on the floor with the valves right there in front of my face. Roll Eyes

How much more ridiculous can I get?
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Reply #23 - 08/26/16 at 21:22:36
 
Here's a picture of my spark plug. Looks like its running a tad rich. I'm not entirely sure it was tight. Look at that discoloration around the insulator. I wonder if it is the right model too. I think it's a Champion RA6HC. Didn't check the gap.

I have a plan on getting it breathing better. Wink That paper filter is nasty with dirt. I'll get a picture of it when I get a chance. I'm gonna do Oldfeller's/Paladin's quilt batting filter. Already got the batting. I'm gonna run it with the paper filter a bit first just so I can tell the difference. If that's not enough, the dyna mod should finish it off.
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Reply #25 - 08/26/16 at 21:59:06
 
I think it is the right model from what I've read.
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Reply #26 - 08/26/16 at 22:46:24
 
On a side note you can always check a torque wrench by sticking the square lug in a vice with the handle horizontal and hang a known weight of it at the correct distance.
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Reply #27 - 08/27/16 at 08:25:17
 
X pounds hung at the one foot from center of the socket =
Foot Pounds.
By changing the weight you can test it through a range.
Proving it's off or on, either way, by making a note of the accuracy you can use it.
The problem IS, some of the bolts and the threads that they are screwed into won't take the torque listed. If you just walk off into it and Don't use the Hands and Brain you'll be stripping and breaking stuff. Use the ratchet or end wrench, work the pattern, use the TW every now and then and see where you are. If it's Feeling like something is on the edge of going south, or you can tell that the clamping is done, then the question becomes,
Is the penalty for it NOT being adequately torqued greater than or less than the penalty for breaking or stripping something?

If it's a side cover, the penalty is a drip, and you can get a wrench on it, even with the exhaust installed.
If it's the head, and it's not tight enough, you could be going back in, pulling the head, doing the gasket, and Still facing the feeling of it being tight before it's properly torqued.

The cost of new bolts and nuts is a lot less than making a mess, fixing it, AND then buying the new nuts and bolts.

If anyone is inexperienced and doesn't know what it feels like just as a bolt comes fully Tight, get a few sizes, get a couple of bits of flat scrap, bolt them together and bust a few.
Use oil and grease and see how different it is.
Why Learn on the important stuff?

3 of each size, at least. Dry, oil, grease, and in a vise or using Something big enough to hold the experiment steady, so You can feel the way the bolt is acting and not be fighting with it.
A well spent few dollars.
And don't go to the hardware store.
Go to the industrial supply house.
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Reply #28 - 08/27/16 at 08:28:39
 
Don't you have to also factor in the weight of the wrench's handle while checking calibration?

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Reply #29 - 08/27/16 at 08:43:08
 
You Can, but it's negligible unless you have a Fat TW.  I would not bother. There is a Range  for every torque on every bolt.
Rather than immediately hunt for the detail Not addressed,
Use the information that is given.

What does a 3/8" beam TW weigh?
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