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Reply #30 - 08/24/16 at 23:07:48
 
BTW.. I don't think I've ever heard the phrase "Wahhabism" in this forum.
Without wishing to stereotype, but that's a shock to me  Huh
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Reply #31 - 08/25/16 at 04:01:25
 
HovisPresley wrote on 08/24/16 at 21:09:34:
Ray: "Hovis and Bot chided me with retorting that doesn't mean squat,"

Are you comparing visiting relatives in SoCal from maybe Washington state, to spending months in a different continent with a different religion, different language, working for the locals, learning a bit of their religion, based in the very 'heartland' that you guys call the 'Holy Land' ?

Ray, to be honest, I don't think you get 'proportional samples'...

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Yes, and no.....
But are we really looking for truth?

This is just an example, given of my last physical visit, that was intended to show the press bias, and at least provide MY firsthand experience, of why the PRESS is disingenuous in reporting.

My relationship with these Mexicans extends over 40 years with some of them, but I regress, the ones you guys know are more ethnic, or sumtin....

Blinders are blinders, no matter who wears them, fingers in ears only serves to retard hearing, hands over eyes, the vision.....
Guess the prudent thing next is to put my hands over my mouth as a consideration for the other monkeys  Grin

PS: Hows that money holding out, you guys past the collapse yet?
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Reply #32 - 08/25/16 at 06:08:34
 
oldNslow wrote on 08/24/16 at 09:01:35:
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious. If you're serious your comment makes no sense.


I'm being silly. The notion being that they expect our laws to be changed to suit them where no other country would bend their will like that.


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Reply #33 - 08/25/16 at 06:17:58
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/24/16 at 22:29:00:
What I know more universally is,.. most humans just want to feel safe, secure, and comfortable,... have friendships, and love, and peace...
Then, there are the nuts....
...and we all have our nuts...


Except for every single conservative Christian, any practicing Catholic, any member of the clergy.....right Sew?
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Reply #34 - 08/25/16 at 06:41:40
 
Paraquat wrote on 08/25/16 at 06:08:34:
oldNslow wrote on 08/24/16 at 09:01:35:
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious. If you're serious your comment makes no sense.


I'm being silly. The notion being that they expect our laws to be changed to suit them where no other country would bend their will like that.


--Steve


I was hoping that was it. Smiley

Anyway, I find it difficult to believe that anyone could seriously believe that this wasn't just a straight up ransom payment.All the talk of "we don't negotiate with terrorists - we won't succumb to extortion - it's their money anyway - etc. etc" is simply nonsense.

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:either way, what does this matter, Neither Clinton nor Trump have ANYTHING to do with this deal.


I got involved in this discussion precisely because it dosen't have anything to do with Trump and Hillary, and I am heartily sick of talking about either of them. Since they have now crept into the conversation, I guess I'm done Tongue  

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Reply #35 - 08/25/16 at 07:53:41
 
oldNslow wrote on 08/25/16 at 06:41:40:
Paraquat wrote on 08/25/16 at 06:08:34:
oldNslow wrote on 08/24/16 at 09:01:35:
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious. If you're serious your comment makes no sense.


I'm being silly. The notion being that they expect our laws to be changed to suit them where no other country would bend their will like that.


--Steve


I was hoping that was it. Smiley

Anyway, I find it difficult to believe that anyone could seriously believe that this wasn't just a straight up ransom payment.All the talk of "we don't negotiate with terrorists - we won't succumb to extortion - it's their money anyway - etc. etc" is simply nonsense.

Lost Artist wrote Quote:
:either way, what does this matter, Neither Clinton nor Trump have ANYTHING to do with this deal.


I got involved in this discussion precisely because it dosen't have anything to do with Trump and Hillary, and I am heartily sick of talking about either of them. Since they have now crept into the conversation, I guess I'm done Tongue  



We need look no further than the FACT they used a foreign currency.
If this was truly legit, we would have paid this legal obligation with our own currency.
One can easily see why they used this ploy, to escape accountability....
Sorta like burying your private server in your basement and saying you did it was for transparency.....
I was amazed at how far these sheep will go to extend any semblance of reasoning to continue this charade.
In substance abuse programs we call this masking  Grin
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